WTF ??? Gas... Sigh.....
I understand all the political ramifications of gas prices...
But Jesus H. Christ 21 cents in a single day ??? At 7-11 no less.. I know that's all Citgo and Joe for Oil Bull ****.. But 21 cents ?? In a f'ing day ???? I;ve got six five gallon gas containers in the shed. I'm gonna fill em all up tomorrow, for my lawn tractor and other manly man " play toys". I'll have to pay $5 a gallon to travel, but I won't have to pay $5 a gallon to mow my lawn. |
Be glad you do not drive a diesel :eek:
If you had ever told me diesel would be twenty cents more then super unleaded - I would have laughed. Not being smart - watch storing gas too long. Heard the E-10 breaks down in about 60 to 90 days unless treated. |
If we pay this much for gas, we should not have to have than damend E10 anyway....I have already replaced one engine becuase of that...I would be happy to pay a little more for ethanol-less gas...
I hate the hysteria...Its all an excuse for someone to make money.....Egypt has a bad president prices go up, Egypt might become a democracy prices go up, Libya may lose a guy we have been trying to take down for 30 years, prices go up, Al Qaida is doing drugs, prices go up, we have electric cars, prices go up, the weather is good one week and bad the next, prices go up... There is only one common theme here..Prices go up and somebody in some foreign country is counting his billions along with the few guys that run Exxon and Chevron, while the rest of us get stuck paying even more taxes...Gas prices rising like this are only one thing, a tax on our work and leisure travel.... I just hope to heck that they start to go back down over the next couple of weeks... Sorry, I tend to rant..... |
Wish I could find the info.
Remember reading how much the oil companies make for each penny fuel goes up. It was millions and millions. While ranting - What the F... is up with the 9/10 ? Just round it up. Love to pump exactly one gallon and demand a 1/10 cent in change. |
Dammit; I knew this was going to happen. I buy a new 4x4 truck and.....
Just look what happened in 2008 when I put all my savings in the stock market:eek:. As soon as I buy an electric car, Alaska will begin drilling in Anwar and gas will be 32 cents a gallon. 5th (Marty) |
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Jay Leno, lover of cars, loves electric cars. because saving fuel is what makes it possible for 700hp supercars, etc to remain viable.
I suppose it applies to our boats as well. Average non-boater would probably be appalled at our mpg. But it's all these folks driving priuses, (sailing -:eek:), etc that 'save' enough fuel that the rest of us can enjoy our thing. hey, no reason not to at least return their friendly waves and smiles,... |
When's the last time you heard a petroleum company claim losses in quarter? (Not counting BP last year.)
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i hope it gets better towards spring but i think that's traditional season for gas prices to go up; the claim being more people driving.
i forget the percentage, but i believe the majority of each barrel of oil is refined to become gasoline. and as much as i hate the e10, can you think of another way to reduce gasoline consumption by 10% when no one wants to give up a thing? i keep thinking that the sooner i can talk all you guys into sailing lessons, the cheaper it will be for me to run my boat,... |
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Maybe if gas gets to $5 a gallon, we could go "Egypt" on the whole administration:eek:. 5th (Marty) |
A week ago I passed a gas station that was advertising non-ethyanol @ $3.29/gal. Today I passed a regular station and the e-10 is now up to $3.25/gal which will put non-ethyanol at $3.45/gal. I hope we see a drop but with Obama in office they will continue to rise. Bob
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Please, tell the class, how so ???? Oh I know.. Obama wasn;t born here, he's from Egypt OR Libya.. No birth certificate.... He caused the uprisings with a secret communique and has the whole middle east in an uproar... Silly me... What was I thinking ????:eek::eek::eek: |
I feel like I hit the lottery. I filled up my Excursion on Wednesday night at Giant. The regular price was $3.06 and I had .30 off in Gas rewards so I filled it up at $2.76 a gallon.
Today the price at Giant was $3.23 gallon! |
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Anything Big O does will only be a temporary patch to placate the masses anyway. Release some of our strategic reserves? Might knock 10 cents off the price in a little while. The fact is, we're so dependent on foreign oil that there's very little that this, or any administration could do EXCEPT for getting the oil we already have in our own country. I read today that we have a minimum of 200 year supply located from Canada down through the Dakotas, and some people are estimating it could be as much as a 2,000 year supply. I'm no geologist, so I don't have a clue about the accuaracy of that...seems an awfully big variance. But I don't foresee our current administration putting anything in motion to harvest that light sweet crude. The wheels need to be turning in high gear right now in order to make a difference years from now. So while there's nothing President Obama could really do about the current prices, he can do something about future prices. |
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Oh what the heII; the man's a complete joke as President. 5th (Marty) |
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I don't have to respond to every thread, I don't have to respond to every thread, I don;t have to respond to every thread.. oh WTF.....:rolleyes::rolleyes:
http://66.70.86.64/ChartServer/ch.ga...&Unit=US%20$/G How we all forget, " The Bush Years"..... |
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Gasbuddy.com Its free, and very interesting. Whoever mentioned Giant and the Shell discount, I'd be curious how long it lasts, but it does seem very useful. Most Shells have 5 cents off Thursdays, add week of groceries, for us it ALWAYS $200. So thats 20 cents off, add the five cents off, that's 25 cents per gallon. My tank holds 22. So for the sake of argument, 20 gallons times 25 cents. Save 5 bucks.... Kinda makes it more tolerable. |
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Prices tanked at the 2008 elections and now they're going right back up. Your chart leaves out other worldwide contributing factors for either the prior or current administration. |
Blakesdad, Thank you for the chart. It clearly shows (almost to the day) that when Obama got sworn in as president, George Bush had oil way down in price. But as soon as Obama got sworn into office the price started going up and has not stopped. In fairness I will not say it is all Obamas' fault. It is half Obamas' fault and the other half was his Demo. controlled congress!.
Not starting a Demo. vs. GOP war but that's how I see it. Bob |
I won't get into that war either, however, if an explanation is that simple its like getting something for free, you are missing something, so here are a few things folks are missing....
1> When the economy tanked in November of 2008 the Opec nations had to reduce prices because not only was gasoline being bought at historic lows but all products that depended on crude (like plastics, energy prodcution non-gas, synthetics, etc..) grinded to a production halt. Without "artificiallly" lowering the price of oil to where it should not have been, these products would not have been able to recover and would have hurt Opec nations future sales. 2> Stocks began an historic rise from 2008 to the present. If you watch the high and low dips with the market, oil for once did not have an inverse relationship with stocks...For that matter if you look at the macro-economics all types of investment commodities (oil, gold, silver), stocks (public and private), as well as personal savings and 401K deposit rates have all grown at rates never seen before. This is an anomally that will not continue...Gold will stabalize, oil prices will retreat to the mid to high 80's, people will begin to consume more and save less..... 3> If you take a closer look at that chart...You see the mean price of gas, during these turbulent times is around 2.80....Although I would like it to be lower, with inflation over the years that is probabaly about where it should be....If the price is around mid 80 per barrell, then gas will fall back into that 2.80 range... 4> Take a longer look than 60 months....More like 10 or 20 years....You will notice similar dips and spikes like 2008 however long term the chart looks very much the same, if you take out the complete abberations like the 6 months ending 2008. It has pretty much risen with inflation...Take the outliers out (the top and botton 10 to 20% spikes) and the charts pretty much rise with inflation, GDP, the Dow, and personal income over the last 10 to 20 years... 5> We need our politicians (republicans and democrats) to do a better job with our "allies"....How many of you know that our largest source of oil imports is actually from Canada ? Mexico is number 2 ? Britian is 9 ? Brazil and Venezuala are 10 and 4 ? The truth is out of the top 10 countries we import oil from 3, maybe 4 could be called middle eastern....I say its not repubs and dems but the system as a whole...We support the countries day in and day out and yet they (our non middle eastern allies) are the ones making us pay more at the pump... 6> I know I am forgetting a ton of factors, but I think we all need to understand there is more than 1, 2, or 3 sides to any story...This is a perfect example...Too many factors policitcal, environmental, social, economic, etc...play into this equation to "blame" any one area...In the end, it just sucks for all of us.....:( Finally, please forgive any notion that I may know anything about this at all...I am not that smart, don't catch enough fish, and I still looking for a beer today...I will go back to my "normal" self now.... Good luck if any of you get out this weekend ! |
Our own oil companies right here in USA are raping us too. Exxon/ Mobil has had the highest profit margin of any company in the history of free enterprise............Gary
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So true forgot about that...All this BS and Exxon blows profits out like no one ever has...Then they cry about it....
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Download Gasbuddy.com on your phone..
Put in your zip code and ponder. Its AMAZING the price disparages. I was in Bethesda, this morning Democracy and Westlake. 3.99 for premo... |
Mr. Garlien - I really like your post; it is sensible and makes me feel optimistic and good. in fact, there's a little bird chirping outside my window and it's a sunny morning. and anyone that likes to feel good, should stop reading now. For the rest, get a tall glass of Drano ready,...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peak_oil |
I’m considering getting a 25 to 27 foot WA at some point, but part of what will prevent me from pulling the trigger is gas prices. My 21 CC drinks enough gas as it is, but is a gas sipper compared to some vessels.
I think that Market conditions drive gas prices more that who’s in office by and large with very few exceptions. Obama did threaten to cripple the oil and gas industry with his cap and trade nonsense, but we beat him back. Quote:
I don't want to buy a boat only to not be able to afford to run it on account of Jihad Johnny and his merry band of towel headed Taliban getting cute with some Kalashnikovs and C4 in some far off land... |
3.39 for regular today. :( Unfortunately my truck seems to average in the 16's no matter how i drive it. (9-10 when towing) Foruntately fishing in my back yard is about to heat up
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It's now bordering on insanity. Frickin' joke.
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....but if they are catching bigguns' at Lookout this summer, all bets are off! :D
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Sandy point = 4.5 (I think that's about right) I'd say we're pretty lucky to be where we are. |
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