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5th Tuition 02-17-2010 11:25 PM

PSCR trolling spread
 
Ok; my normal 15 rods spread for the spring must be cut down to 6 rods. I normally run 6 singles (2-6 ounces) off starbord board and 6 tandems (2/4 to 2/8 ounces) off the port board; with three deeper boat rods as well.
Because I can only have 6 rods out, I'm thinking I need to add more attraction to my spread. I don't normally run umbrella's, 6 packs, or daisy chains in the spring.
Now, with only three rods off each board, I can run any combination of the above.
I'm thinking, maybe a light daisy chain as rod #1 (farthest out), a six pack as rod #2, and a small umbrella as rod #3 on the starboard side.
On the port side, I can run the same hardware but with heavier lures to track deeper.
Give me your opinion on the spread. Would you run all umbrellas since the boards can handle them? I haven't had much success with 6 packs, have you?
By the time I figure out what's working and what's not, it will be the start of the season and I'll be back to my original spread:D.
I'll post what I have the most success with. 5th (Marty)

Baldzilla 02-17-2010 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5th Tuition (Post 4346)
Ok; my normal 15 rods spread for the spring must be cut down to 6 rods. I normally run 6 singles (2-6 ounces) off starbord board and 6 tandems (2/4 to 2/8 ounces) off the port board; with three deeper boat rods as well.
Because I can only have 6 rods out, I'm thinking I need to add more attraction to my spread. I don't normally run umbrella's, 6 packs, or daisy chains in the spring.
Now, with only three rods off each board, I can run any combination of the above.
I'm thinking, maybe a light daisy chain as rod #1 (farthest out), a six pack as rod #2, and a small umbrella as rod #3 on the starboard side.
On the port side, I can run the same hardware but with heavier lures to track deeper.
Give me your opinion on the spread. Would you run all umbrellas since the boards can handle them? I haven't had much success with 6 packs, have you?
By the time I figure out what's working and what's not, it will be the start of the season and I'll be back to my original spread:D.
I'll post what I have the most success with. 5th (Marty)


WHy disrupt the fish on the way to the spawning grounds, can't you just suck it up and wait until the season opens like the rest of us :)

Sorry Marty, couldnt resist, just wait till you post a pic :D

5th Tuition 02-17-2010 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baldzilla (Post 4347)
WHy disrupt the fish on the way to the spawning grounds, can't you just suck it up and wait until the season opens like the rest of us :)
Sorry Marty, couldnt resist, just wait till you post a pic :D

Mark; I have already looked back through a ton of photo's from the past couple of years. I picked one showing a friend of mine (who was just learning to fish) who has the most bloody rock you have ever seen. He's not used to holding fish, so he has a death grip on it through the gills. Additionally, he was scared he was going to get myco so he's wearing those big white DRY gardening gloves that surely remove a lot of the protective fish slime.
Of course the fish went in the box because it was caught during the C/K season, but I'll post it on Tidalfish as if it was caught during the PSCR.
It will drive them nuts:eek:.
5th (Marty)

p.s. The MCBA will probably use the pic to ask for a reduction of only three rods for next PSCR:rolleyes:.

Night Nurse 02-18-2010 12:05 AM

Take the day and the whole spread out. Rotate the rods so only 6 are out at any one time. Take notes and you'll find what's hot soon enough.

As far as the "PHOTOS" photo shop eggs dripping out:eek:

TED

tacklemake 02-18-2010 12:24 AM

Trolling one rod for land lock rock in spring
 
Reservoir fishing has land lock rock fish up to 60lbs and very little fishing pressure. Most fisherman live line white perch and crappie for the big one's. The reservoir only allows electric motors, so there's no one pulling planer boards. I'm going to troll my new daisy chain w/ 3oz parachute up and back and also fish for musky and crappie.

Bug Guy 02-18-2010 08:02 AM

I've been talking with a buddy about what he's gonna do. I think he is leaning towards this general plan:

1 board - 3 rods
1 way back - tandem that has worked
1 deep something (daisy chain maybe or umbrella)
1 "other", maybe a spoon out the back, maybe a 4th board, maybe another deep...see how the day goes.

I'll be interested to see what the regs say...wondering if there will be a possibility that they state we can't even carry more than 6 rods???? Just a thought.

cheers,

bob

B-Faithful 02-18-2010 08:37 AM

I am going to run one board.

3-5oz solo chute
2/5 tandem
3/6 tandem
4/7 tandem

boat:
Umbrella with 20oz out 50-70' depending upon the thermocline
either another umbrella or a deep chute/21 tony tandem

When I go blue fishing though I am going troll 11 rods with an assortment of atomics, stretches, rebels, green machines, etc. ;):D

powerplay 02-18-2010 08:38 AM

Tandems on one side singles on the other. Maybe switch out and put two deep lines out. Keep experimenting to see what works.

Baldzilla 02-18-2010 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5th Tuition (Post 4350)
Mark; I have already looked back through a ton of photo's from the past couple of years. I picked one showing a friend of mine (who was just learning to fish) who has the most bloody rock you have ever seen. He's not used to holding fish, so he has a death grip on it through the gills. Additionally, he was scared he was going to get myco so he's wearing those big white DRY gardening gloves that surely remove a lot of the protective fish slime.
Of course the fish went in the box because it was caught during the C/K season, but I'll post it on Tidalfish as if it was caught during the PSCR.
It will drive them nuts:eek:.
5th (Marty)

p.s. The MCBA will probably use the pic to ask for a reduction of only three rods for next PSCR:rolleyes:.

I'm going to post the photo of the infamous 8 inch striped bass with the 10 inch bkd in it's belly on the guided trip!!!!

Fish Nut 02-18-2010 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5th Tuition (Post 4346)
Ok; my normal 15 rods spread for the spring must be cut down to 6 rods. I normally run 6 singles (2-6 ounces) off starbord board and 6 tandems (2/4 to 2/8 ounces) off the port board; with three deeper boat rods as well.
Because I can only have 6 rods out, I'm thinking I need to add more attraction to my spread. I don't normally run umbrella's, 6 packs, or daisy chains in the spring.
Now, with only three rods off each board, I can run any combination of the above.
I'm thinking, maybe a light daisy chain as rod #1 (farthest out), a six pack as rod #2, and a small umbrella as rod #3 on the starboard side.
On the port side, I can run the same hardware but with heavier lures to track deeper.
Give me your opinion on the spread. Would you run all umbrellas since the boards can handle them? I haven't had much success with 6 packs, have you?
By the time I figure out what's working and what's not, it will be the start of the season and I'll be back to my original spread:D.
I'll post what I have the most success with. 5th (Marty)



I thought you weren’t going to molest fish this year? Or was that harass the fish.

Photo Shop pictures are going to be interesting.

I will have all of my rocket launchers filled with rods. I don’t know what I will be pulling. I don’t catch fish anyway.


5th Tuition, have you figured that ass thing out with the sassy shad?

5th Tuition 02-18-2010 11:18 AM

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5th Tuition, have you figured that ass thing out with the sassy shad?[/QUOTE]


Rob; I bought the "tool", but haven't tried using it yet. Alan (justchillin) has more practice working around anal openings and said he knew just what they were talking about and how to "thread it" to avoid the use of stingers:eek:.
I'll wait until he "practices" on a couple:D.
Come on Spring.
5th (Marty)

Skip 02-18-2010 12:50 PM

I plan to mix up the spread and use everything in tandem.

My lighter parachutes will be paired with daisy chains so they stay shallow.

Most seasons I have 4-5 rods out with new or experimental lures. They get 3-4 trips to catch - if not , the lure is put away until next year.

I might try pulling a few umbrellas - I feel the vibration of a big spread of lures does draw fish in.

Be sure to read the letter of the new law. Let's just say , haste makes waste :D

drichitt 02-18-2010 06:59 PM

Real easy, 6 dummy lines of varying length and depth, each with 24" 6-arm umbrellas:D. Is that neanderthal enough...Don

5th Tuition 02-18-2010 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drichitt (Post 4405)
Real easy, 6 dummy lines of varying length and depth, each with 24" 6-arm umbrellas:D. Is that neanderthal enough...Don

Don; that still leaves me with 6 rods to figure our what to run on them:D.
Dummy lines are not rods and therefore don't count:eek:.
5th (Marty)

Hockleyneck 02-18-2010 07:34 PM

I have not read the law in detail, but wonder if you could run teasers legally without a hook plus your 6 rods.

Instead of trolling I may just LTJ for the fish from the Flats to Solomon's. The DNR does not seem to care about LTJing and I hear its Ripping at the secret spot right now.

mlag 02-18-2010 09:15 PM

2 planer boards.............one side out 100 feet.............4 rods

2 boat rods...............one umbrella.............one tandom

other side............board out 2 miles with gill net stretched from end to end

I didn't see any restrictions on pulling net in new regulations............Mark


Dang.................I'm starting to sound like Marty:D

Baldzilla 02-18-2010 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlag (Post 4417)
2 planer boards.............one side out 100 feet.............4 rods

2 boat rods...............one umbrella.............one tandom

other side............board out 2 miles with gill net stretched from end to end

I didn't see any restrictions on pulling net in new regulations............Mark


Dang.................I'm starting to sound like Marty:D

Actually if you use a Gill net, you now can catch more, run more net, keep more fish, and your size limit has been lowered...JUST DON'T RELEASE ANY, C&R KILLS FISH

Old No.7 02-18-2010 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlag (Post 4417)
other side............board out 2 miles with gill net stretched from end to end

I didn't see any restrictions on pulling net in new regulations............Mark


Dang.................I'm starting to sound like Marty:D

:D LOL that's funny

mlag 02-18-2010 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baldzilla (Post 4418)
Actually if you use a Gill net, you now can catch more, run more net, keep more fish, and your size limit has been lowered...JUST DON'T RELEASE ANY, C&R KILLS FISH

Now that's funny! I don't care who you are!!! lol

drichitt 02-18-2010 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5th Tuition (Post 4407)
Don; that still leaves me with 6 rods to figure our what to run on them:D.
Dummy lines are not rods and therefore don't count:eek:.
5th (Marty)

Marty - I like how you think.

Skip 02-18-2010 09:32 PM

Not that I've read the fine print but the limit is six lines.

Dummy lines count :mad:

Teasers are legal - no rule that I see addresses them.
I've had Rock grab hold of the umbrella teaser and hold on almost to the boat. Reeling it in - could tell something was wrong - the rig was coming in almost sideways. Fish spit the teaser out about 25 feet from the boat.

drichitt 02-18-2010 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlag (Post 4417)
2 planer boards.............one side out 100 feet.............4 rods

2 boat rods...............one umbrella.............one tandom

other side............board out 2 miles with gill net stretched from end to end

I didn't see any restrictions on pulling net in new regulations............Mark


Dang.................I'm starting to sound like Marty:D

With that BIG new motor, you probably have enough power to do it:D

morsax 02-19-2010 12:08 PM

What's a 6 pack? In relation to this discussion that is:D

Or are you throwing a 6 pack of brew back there with a hook in it?

5th Tuition 02-19-2010 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skip (Post 4423)
Not that I've read the fine print but the limit is six lines.
Dummy lines count :mad

Damn; six lines huh. Well there's always plan B. Hammerheads, M-80's, or cherry bombs; anyone know which one works best?:eek:
5th (Marty)

p.s. Think we can get Jim to stock them at Marty's:D?

Fish Nut 02-19-2010 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by morsax (Post 4451)
What's a 6 pack? In relation to this discussion that is:D

Or are you throwing a 6 pack of brew back there with a hook in it?

From what I witnessed at Beefalo BoBs most CB Anglers will fall for a 6 pack of brew with a hook in it, or a pitt beef sandwich.

Now if we want to catch Skip we may have to move to a Donut lure.

I don’t know how these guys would fare against 25 lbs of drag.

Please crush all barbs on the lures and practice C&R on these anglers.

Fish Nut 02-19-2010 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5th Tuition (Post 4454)
Damn; six lines huh. Well there's always plan B. Hammerheads, M-80's, or cherry bombs; anyone know which one works best?:eek:
5th (Marty)

p.s. Think we can get Jim to stock them at Marty's:D?




I may or may not be speaking from experience gained in my younger years.;)

M80 or Cherry Bombs with the wax fuse :eek:


I don’t know about Jim. A certain Tennessee boy should have a connection or two.

Baldzilla 02-19-2010 02:13 PM

Why do y'all want to harass fish in the pre season, let them spawn and hold off...C&R obviously kills more fish than C&K or we wouldn't be allowed to pull a gill net :D Sorry, I don't know why I insist on writing that when I don't believe it, but Im starting to see the allure!!!

5th Tuition 02-19-2010 04:21 PM

Mark (baldzilla); did you spend a weekend with Capt. George?:D
5th (Marty)

Baldzilla 02-19-2010 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5th Tuition (Post 4473)
Mark (baldzilla); did you spend a weekend with Capt. George?:D
5th (Marty)

Ouch...very ouch man...
did you get my PM BTW???

5th Tuition 02-19-2010 05:52 PM

Morsax; A 6 pack is similar to a daisychain except it has a spreader bar with two teasers, then below, another spreader bar with two teasers, and finally another spreader bar with two teasers (hense the name 6 pack); finally a single lure follows to catch a fish.

Mark (baldzilla), I did get your PM, but I'm all wrapped up in getting my HDS bought and installed. I don't need that other item yet. Thanks for the info on the websight for electronics. It is going to save me some cash.

5th (Marty)

Baldzilla 02-19-2010 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5th Tuition (Post 4478)
Morsax; A 6 pack is similar to a daisychain except it has a spreader bar with two teasers, then below, another spreader bar with two teasers, and finally another spreader bar with two teasers (hense the name 6 pack); finally a single lure follows to catch a fish.

Mark (baldzilla), I did get your PM, but I'm all wrapped up in getting my HDS bought and installed. I don't need that other item yet. Thanks for the info on the websight for electronics. It is going to save me some cash.

5th (Marty)

I'm here for you buddy...tell me how you like that HDS I'm thinking about getting one :D

tacklemake 02-20-2010 02:05 AM

I made 6-packs with 6" and 9" shad when I ran J R'S TACKLE years ago. If I can find the materials again I will make more.

morsax 02-21-2010 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5th Tuition (Post 4478)
Morsax; A 6 pack is similar to a daisychain except it has a spreader bar with two teasers, then below, another spreader bar with two teasers, and finally another spreader bar with two teasers (hense the name 6 pack); finally a single lure follows to catch a fish.
5th (Marty)

Thanks! I have a couple of them floating around somewhere--probably in the pile of umbrellas that I don't fish with either. I have gone to nothing but tandems and singles in the last couple years--I know the other stuff works, I just don't like pulling in that much crap.

Hans

5th Tuition 02-21-2010 07:38 PM

Hans; I ran all singles and tandems in the spring as well, but with only 6 lines allowed during PSCR, I figured I'd put as much attractant out there as possible. 5th (Marty)


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