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5th Tuition 07-07-2010 07:30 PM

A sign of the times
 
As you probably read in my last post; we have been having some problems with the hook quality on the Tony Acetta Pet #15 lures.
I went to the Luhr Jensen website and found the tony's for sale, however, when you go to the Customer Service section of the site, it says "Coming Soon".
You can buy as much of the inferior product as you want. You can also sign up for special email news from the company. But heaven forbid, they would have their customer service portion of the site open.
This is just another small example of how this country is going to hell in a handbasket:confused:.
About a week ago, I had a flat tire on my truck (Ford F150). Pep Boys was having a sale on tires (buy 3 get one free). I put the spare on the truck and ran to Pep Boys and bought 4 new tires. I asked for the spare to be replaced back up under the bed of the truck. When they called to say the truck was done, I found the truck on the parking lot with four new tires and the spare in the bed. I told them I requested the spare to be returned under the bed. They said they didn't have a crank for the truck and they DIDN'T KNOW WHERE THE CRANK WAS FOR MY TRUCK. I told them that was absurd; it was comparable to a carpenter not knowing where to find a hammer. When I asked for the manager, he didn't know where the crank was either. I told them, if it was I, and I didn't know where the crank was, I would have phoned either another Pep Boys store OR a ford dealer to find out where it was so I could replace my spare and I would know in the future where the crank was on America's Best Selling Pickup.
I was so disappointed with their reaction, I brought the truck home, took ten minutes to put the spare away, and wrote a short senario of the debacle on their feedback/survey website.
Today, the manager called (after viewing my feedback survey) to ask if the spare was still in the pickup bed:eek:. I assured him it was not. He asked if they could do a free oil change to satisfy me. I thanked him but told him nothanks.
It appears that this type of attitude permiates many of the businesses today. This is why you find sites such as this that report good customer service (like Jim at Marty's). It has become the exception instead of the norm.
I had a friend who wanted some estimates for a new roof on his house, many of the companies didn't even honor the appointments made to view the job:confused:.
Enough of a rant; I hope Lure Jensen gets their chit together and starts producing a quality product again.
5th (Marty)
p.s. at least you guys have something new to read:).

uncljohn 07-08-2010 09:52 AM

The sign of the times is "Made in China", and we are all familiar w/ the inferior products they've been shipping out for McDonald's Happy Meals and dog food. Noone wants to pay $9/lure, so Luhr Jensen is able to get them for $4/lure from a chinese manufacturer.

5th Tuition 07-08-2010 11:41 AM

I guess this is why I'm not in business. The way I look at it is if the inferior hook cost them one dollar; and a better hook (one that would keep the customer happy) costs twice as much ($2), that only adds a small amount to a six dollar lure.
At least it will add some profit to Jim; many of us will be swapping out the hooks on the tony's.
5th (Marty)

Fish Nut 07-08-2010 12:32 PM

Marty, had the same problem last year after one trip the hooks were rusting and the screw holding the hook was in bad shape. Replaced the hardware with ss from Ace hardware store and swapped out the old hook with a big eye stinger hook. Yes the same chemically sharpened hooks that make your fingers bleed if you look at them wrong.


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crabby and son 07-08-2010 07:25 PM

Service is poor most everywhere, Home depot, Lowes, phone co. ect. Most of your customer service tech calls go to India:eek: Most products are made in China and the quality shows but people want cheap and cheap is what they get...............Gary

baydreamer 07-09-2010 10:52 AM

what happens when we trade price (big box stores) for value (local tire shop, probabaly doesn't even exist anymore)

we all complain, but almost all lead to their demise

Doggydaddy 07-09-2010 09:18 PM

Marty I know just how you feel, We bought a new John Deere mower a couple years back & thought it would last, come to find out the thing had the cheapest Briggs & Stratton engine made in it hell it flew apart before 300 hrs & it was out of warranty. Now I don't buy John Deere or Briggs & Stratton.That sort of thing is rampant in this country, big bussiness selling out it's customers for the larger profit....greedy SOB's

crabby and son 07-09-2010 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Doggydaddy (Post 7850)
Marty I know just how you feel, We bought a new John Deere mower a couple years back & thought it would last, come to find out the thing had the cheapest Briggs & Stratton engine made in it hell it flew apart before 300 hrs & it was out of warranty. Now I don't buy John Deere or Briggs & Stratton.That sort of thing is rampant in this country, big bussiness selling out it's customers for the larger profit....greedy SOB's

John Deere still makes a good tractor but is selling cheaper version to compete with Yardman and Craftsman. They are the L110, 120 and 130 versions sold by Home Depot and Lowes...........Gary

reds 07-10-2010 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by crabby and son (Post 7851)
John Deere still makes a good tractor but is selling cheaper version to compete with Yardman and Craftsman. They are the L110, 120 and 130 versions sold by Home Depot and Lowes...........Gary

I bought my John Deere lawn tractor in 1983. Still cutting grass with it.

Doggydaddy 07-10-2010 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by crabby and son (Post 7851)
John Deere still makes a good tractor but is selling cheaper version to compete with Yardman and Craftsman. They are the L110, 120 and 130 versions sold by Home Depot and Lowes...........Gary

All the rest of them have already gone cheap & worthless I don't see why John Deere's falling for the same thing they will just lose customers.
Reds things aren't the same as in 1983 before corperate america decided to sell their country down the river. Both my parents & my aunt worked for John Deere when they made all their own equipment forged the steel welded the parts together & assembled everything in this country......it's very different now they have almost everything made out of country & put their name on.......old man Deere would be turning in his grave like a rotissery chicken if he knew whats been done.

reds 07-11-2010 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Doggydaddy (Post 7857)
All the rest of them have already gone cheap & worthless I don't see why John Deere's falling for the same thing they will just lose customers.
Reds things aren't the same as in 1983 before corperate america decided to sell their country down the river. Both my parents & my aunt worked for John Deere when they made all their own equipment forged the steel welded the parts together & assembled everything in this country......it's very different now they have almost everything made out of country & put their name on.......old man Deere would be turning in his grave like a rotissery chicken if he knew whats been done.

John Deere still makes quality products. You just have to deal with John Deere and not Home Depot etc.

crabby and son 07-11-2010 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by reds (Post 7859)
John Deere still makes quality products. You just have to deal with John Deere and not Home Depot etc.

That is correct. The line John Deere makes for Home Depot is " more affordable."
If you want the quality John Deere, you will need to go to a John Deere dealer and pay more for the quality product.There might be some truth in it that John Deere was a better product in 1983 but they still make a quality product. You can't compare apples and oranges with a true John Deere and one made to be sold at Home Depot. The cost of each should tell you something......Gary

Doggydaddy 07-13-2010 03:24 PM

The way I see it they are putting their name on junk, not afordable mowers they are large enough they don't need to sell cheap mowers at lowes or depot it only makes them look bad.

crabby and son 07-13-2010 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Doggydaddy (Post 7907)
The way I see it they are putting their name on junk, not afordable mowers they are large enough they don't need to sell cheap mowers at lowes or depot it only makes them look bad.

It's all about the money. In a slow economy, people can't afford the more expensive better quality John Deere mowers. Their marketing director has come up with a plan and it is making them more money than pissing people off. We all have choices and when you see a John Deere so inexpensive.......you have got to be able to figure it out.......Let the buyer beware..............Gary

Doggydaddy 07-13-2010 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by crabby and son (Post 7911)
It's all about the money. In a slow economy, people can't afford the more expensive better quality John Deere mowers. Their marketing director has come up with a plan and it is making them more money than pissing people off. We all have choices and when you see a John Deere so inexpensive.......you have got to be able to figure it out.......Let the buyer beware..............Gary

We didn't think $1,700 was cheap for a mower, it said John Deere on the thing so we thought we're getting quality.....at 100 hrs it needed a new head that was a grand at 285 hours it blew up.....we take good care of them oil changes filters keep the blades sharp....the last three mowers with Briggs & Stratton engines all blew up. I'm aware now & will NEVER buy another one or anything with BRiggs & Stratton in it.

crabby and son 07-13-2010 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Doggydaddy (Post 7915)
We didn't think $1,700 was cheap for a mower, it said John Deere on the thing so we thought we're getting quality.....at 100 hrs it needed a new head that was a grand at 285 hours it blew up.....we take good care of them oil changes filters keep the blades sharp....the last three mowers with Briggs & Stratton engines all blew up. I'm aware now & will NEVER buy another one or anything with BRiggs & Stratton in it.

I have the John Deere L130 with a 23 HP Kohler motor on it. I paid $2600.00 for it. The motor is fine but I have had the small guide wheels bend and now I have to cross the starter with a screw driver to start as one of the safety switches went bad. I just can't afford a $7000.00 lawn tractor but I knew before I bought it that it wasn't the good ole John deere. It is what it is........Gary


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