Brandon
 

Interesting how all of a sudden Brandon is taken aback because his type of fishing is effected by the days off?? He could have cared less before, and he will push for Option 1...again, I dont want to start a debate about types of fishing, but now maybe he sees what he did to us. To quote the great Doc Holliday "his hypocrisy knows no bounds"

The way I see it - the DNR tosses out #2 which forces everyone to vote for #1.

Still makes no sense to me - push to limit C/R fishing because you are worried there are not enough fish.

IMHO - DNR should be pushing the C/R and curtail the C/K.

WHY would they do that Skip. It makes WAY too much sense and who wants HONEST opinions?. We see how well they have managed the deer population. Politics is a rough game in MD and only worse in Chicago.............Gary

Brandon lost a lot of my support after his secret deal with Ed O'Brien. I do feel Brandon is feeling some pain now and maybe he will rise to the occassion once this PSCR debate is handled, and go after the real 800# gorilla in the room. Unfortunately, I feel he has miscalculated and lost the upper hand he had on Oct 19th and his quest will be much tougher now that the horse is out of the barn...Don

Skip
I agree, and that is the fight we need to keep pushing forward with. Promote C&R, Curtail C&K...100%

Random thoughts
 

We've been worked over pretty good on this C/R issue. Hopefully this is a wake up call and we'll become involved and unified. I'm not sure what will happen on Mon, but we should work together over the weekend to present a solid case. Both options are unacceptable.

Here are the points/questions I have for the meeting;

• rods to 4 per person, manageable if I fish alone.
• no fishing with barbs or stinger hooks
• use of circle hooks only
• no daily restrictions
• I want to know when/how we can call for a motion to move back trophy season and end the C/K season on the Dec 15th...shifting focus from C/R
• We need make sure DNR is using correct numbers. What was used in the presentation was flawed. There are not that many guys fishing or catching as many fish as indicated.
  

Can you give me your thoughts on these..agree/disagree/add more/subtract some...
How do you feel about pushing for game fish status? We all know that the trophy season is the 800lb gorilla in the room, but can we use it to our advantage?

Don't write off Brandon yet, he could realize how his enthusiam was used to Ed's advantage and there might be backlash.

I'll also move to the Potomac River license and will not be renewing my subscription on TF....voting with my wallet. My little guy looks like he's got the H1N1 flu and one of my twins is starting to get sick, but I'm still hoping to make it Monday.

Wow, the power of ADD:D

I have made a post on the conservation board on TF. It has a graph that plots the number of fish harvested during the trophy season against the YOY index since the begining of the moratorium and the dates I use at the bottom of the graph are the opening days for each year. It definately shows a downward trend of the YOY index and an upwards for the time being of the harvest. At some point the harvest will fall like a rock with no reprodcution to support it.

At least my graph uses real numbers compared to what they are using to curtail C&R. If we really want to fight and get the opening day of trophy season moved back we need graphics to push home the point and some one or some organization to present it in the proper way to get support.

I have been pushing my point behind the scenes with some all ready, but I have been told there is not the political will to support it, also that no one has the political balls to propose it, also that if you think we are hearing screaming now we will really hear screams if we propose that, and also that we need to do it right the first time because we will only get one shot.

I believe all of those things said to me have some merit but the last one may have the most weight, it has to be presented right, at the right time to have a shot and we will only get one shot .

Does anyone but me really want to fight this fight?

I can not make Monday night, but will write letters to the Govenor, Secretary Griffin, Martin Gary, CCA and the MSSA to state my position

I really don't think there will be much you can say to change the two proposals that have been put forth. I think it is cut a dried, vote for one or the other. But heck, I have been wrong before.

At least the bait fishermen will be able to fish, as long as they use circle hooks, which is a great idea as far as I am concerned. Mr. O'Brien does not want circle hooks implemented during the regular season. He has fought that in several meetings I have been to. Personally, I think they should be used baywide if fishing bait, during all seasons.

Lucky someone came in my shop today and informed me of this site.;)

Ele

2 things your wasting your time trying.

Game Fish Status
Messing with the Spring Season.

You don't have the political clout.
Both have been tried and didn't make it.

Game fish status means you have to fight the commercial fishing lobby.

Spring Season means dollars out of Maryland's pocket.

Unfortunately, we could push on both of these items. We just wouldn’t like who we would have to get in bed with to accomplish them. In the end it would end up just like the current mess, out of control and limiting our fishing access. I am writing my elected officials and researching the idea of why we don’t have representation from RFA on the current Board.