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5th Tuition 09-13-2013 06:43 PM

Pissed Off
 
Well, a little rain has to fall on everyone; so I guess it was my turn. I went down to the boat today. As I stepped from the dock to the deck, I noticed shoe prints. This ain't good. My eyes went directly to where my HDS8 should be, and saw nothing but wires. A quick check around and found nothing else out of place or missing.
I looked at the other boats in the marina and saw the same thing on all the expensive components. Thieves hit six boats. They ripped the dash out of the boats that had flush mounted electronics:mad:
Maybe they were there last night during the storm. All that thunder, lightning, and rain means nobody is going to be around their boats.
I was fishing on Wed., so it had to happen Wed. or Thurs. evening.

You work hard to get nice stuff, and somebody comes along and steals it from you. Maybe it's part of the Redistribution of Wealth that our President speaks so highly of:eek:
Looks like with my deductible and depreciation, it's going to cost me a pretty penny to replace it.
Just called BoatUS and put in a claim for the loss. I'll let you know how it goes.
5th (:()

mlag 09-13-2013 06:57 PM

Damn that sucks Marty

Tawn 09-13-2013 07:24 PM

Damn! That does suck Marty. I feel pretty secure where my boat is but I always have a little anxiety every time I walk down the dock.

Hope the insurance treats you right.

Did they tear up the wiring or did they just unplug it?

5th Tuition 09-13-2013 07:41 PM

Unplugged, but now I worry my Gen1 cables ( including SS/DS) may not match a new Gen2 head. Anyone know?
Of coarse my Nav Chip and all waypoints are gone too:mad:
5th

Skip 09-13-2013 07:50 PM

That sucks buddy.

Not sure if I have any of your waypoints but you're welcome to look on my GPS for numbers.

Be sure to contact DNR - often marine thief gets caught. Kinda a limited field - thankfully.

The DNR nabbed the POS stealing boat batteries not too long ago.

It's way over my head but there is a boat alarm system that will call your smart phone. Think it's motion activated - might be worth looking into.

Not to wish you bad luck but thief might strike again - knowing brand new replacements are on the boats they hit.

5th Tuition 09-13-2013 08:12 PM

DNR sent an officer. They will be checking pawn shops. I have some friends checking flea markets. I'll keep an eye on Craigslist. They took a lot of electronics, they will be looking to unload them.

Tawn 09-13-2013 08:13 PM

Marty you are welcome to go through my plotter as well.

5th Tuition 09-13-2013 08:16 PM

Thanks guys; I appreciate that.

Chessie27 09-13-2013 08:27 PM

That really stinks! I just added a little to my arsenal and as much of a pain as it is to haul that stuff home every time, I guess it is the safest thing to do. Maybe you should consider listing what was taken here and on TF and THT just so 60,000+ eyes can be on the look out for them? Just a thought...

5th Tuition 09-13-2013 08:43 PM

Jeff, don't you need to be in bed. You have to get up early for the tournament tomorrow.
I should be asleep too, but still too ticked off.
5th

flycatcher 09-13-2013 10:09 PM

Had an HDS10 stolen off my boat on the trailer behind the motel in Kiptopeake last Dec. Had a DuraSafe lock on the bracket and the thief cut the bracket. So the lock did it's job, but the thief still got the goodies and the lock. The Gen1 wiring worked on the Gen2 replacement. My insurance went up more than $100 when it came time to renew. At least the dirty crook disconnected the wiring and didn't cut it. I feel your pain. If you think you see your unit on Craigslist, the police will have to follow up on it. CL will not disclose any info to private parties. And if you buy a unit you think may be stolen, it can be confiscated and you may be criminally liable for receiving stolen goods if it is hot and you admit that you thought that to be the case. A serial number can confirm identity of your unit, but being able to describe stored waypoints and describe the tracks stored on the unit can help confirm a positive ID of your property.

Hockleyneck 09-15-2013 07:30 AM

Too man thieves out there unfortunately. I was hit when my boat was at Breezy Point. It is not a good feeling to have another person rooting through your personal property. Hopefully the thieves get what is coming to them.

Rivercat09 09-15-2013 09:02 AM

Marty,

From one crime victim to another, I'm sorry to hear it. I feel your pain, and I hope that they catch the POS, lock 'em up, and throw the key away...

Don

Chessie27 09-15-2013 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rivercat09 (Post 16351)
I hope that they catch the POS, lock 'em up, and throw the key away...

Don

Since they seem to be into electronics, maybe the Electric Chair would be a more fitting punishment?!?! :D Easier on us tax payers too! ;)
I hope they catch 'em either way!

reds 09-15-2013 01:57 PM

Use this to search Craigs list. Easier then looking at each city.

http://www.searchtempest.com/

drichitt 09-16-2013 11:05 AM

Or try this to search every Craigslist listing:
http://www.searchcraigslist.org/

Blakesdad 09-16-2013 02:47 PM

Dude.. Very sorry for the loss, but thankfully all replaceable. Kept my boat in Ocean City years ago, everything well until final night.. Left all gear down below and when we got to boat for last day of fishing, the hatch was open.. Not good.. All rods, reels and tackle gone... Needless to say our last day of fishing was the day before...:(

5th Tuition 09-16-2013 07:55 PM

Brian; so true about it all being replaceable. We have a saying in our household since my kids were very little (they are now married adults), "if money can fix the problem, it's not a big problem".
We see people everyday with physical or mental health problems that would trade situations with me in a heart beat.
Sometimes we get selfish and egotistical in the lives we live. Once and a while, I need to step back and realize how lucky I am.
5th (Marty)

bhl 09-17-2013 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5th Tuition (Post 16365)
Brian; so true about it all being replaceable. We have a saying in our household since my kids were very little (they are now married adults), "if money can fix the problem, it's not a big problem".
We see people everyday with physical or mental health problems that would trade situations with me in a heart beat.
Sometimes we get selfish and egotistical in the lives we live. Once and a while, I need to step back and realize how lucky I am.
5th (Marty)

Grasshopper, breath in through the nose and out through the mouth. Relax and clear your mind. Marty, you are right about looking around you and and putting things in perspective. However, I am a huge believer that what goes around, comes around. It may take a while but these thieves will be caught and hopefully punished. Let me know if you need any help installing or repairing anything, I'm off on Fridays.

bhl (Bruce)

5th Tuition 09-17-2013 12:44 PM

Thanks guys for all the offers of waypoints and installation assistance. I would have a new unit in the boat right now, except Jim told me they go on sale this Friday because of the boat show prices:D

Lets just say this story is unfolding the way I had hoped it might. Thanks to everyone who emailed or PM'ed me with information. I may even get my old unit back:eek:
5th

Blakesdad 09-18-2013 03:30 PM

If you just want to fill up your new machine with way points I can help !!! No ****ing fish at them, but it does look awful pretty :)

5th Tuition 09-18-2013 07:27 PM

Brian, last time I followed one of your waypoints with a GPS, it lead me to Baltimore Street and into Chey Joey (a strip joint with the skankiest broads imaginable). :D
5th

garlien 09-20-2013 11:51 AM

Hey....Joey runs a good business....

drichitt 09-20-2013 03:38 PM

Marty might have some good news today:D

5th Tuition 09-20-2013 04:40 PM

NPR get their man!
 
It was a week ago that I realized my HDS unit had been stolen:mad: I contacted DNR's Natural Resources Police and they took all the info. Six boats had been hit at my marina.
On Saturday, I was contacted by several people on both CBA and Tidalfish to alert me that a unit exactly like mine was on Craigslist. I knew another unit that was stolen and it was listed also.
One person (who I don't even know) went so far as to send a message to the thief and say he was interested in my unit. He was informed that my unit was sold:(. He sent me a PM with this info.
Another person (unknown to me as well) sent me PM on Tidalfish saying he had been a "lurker" for a long time, but joined just so he could send me information about my unit being listed on Craigslist:)
Taking this info, I contacted NRP and without going into too much detail (we have a court date of Dec. 20) DNR got my unit back from the guy he sold it too.
It is now in my possession:D. I am missing the two knobs that attach the unit to the bracket, but Jim (BOE Marine) says he has two and I can pick them up Monday.
I had to order a new chip, but this is the only out of pocket cost for me. All in all, pretty lucky. Even my waypoints are saved. I can use the "insight" mapping until my new chip arrives.
I can't thank all those who have assisted me in this endeavor. As pissed as I was about getting the unit stolen, I was impressed with the friends who offered assistance.
I should have gotten Skips waypoints before I posted this:rolleyes:
A special thanks to DNR and all my friends.
5th (Marty)

5th Tuition 09-20-2013 04:47 PM

Special thanks to Davem251 for alerting me on CBA about my unit on CL.

Special thanks to Tomytek for offering me the use of a second unit he has while all this played out.

You guys (all CBA'ers) are the best.

5th

Tawn 09-20-2013 07:03 PM

Good deal Marty. Glad you got your unit back so quick and I hope the prick that stole them gets what he deserves!

You fishing this weekend? We have one tomorrow and I think it's gonna be a wet one!

I'm tired of live lining already, it's getting boring! I'm ready to get the boards back out! :cool:

5th Tuition 09-20-2013 07:36 PM

Nothing this weekend, I'm headed to a rodeo tomorrow:eek:
5th (Marty)

mlag 09-20-2013 08:31 PM

Very good news Marty!

drichitt 09-20-2013 09:50 PM

You needed some good news. Very good to hear my friend.

davem251 09-21-2013 07:23 AM

Excellent!
 
Marty, this is great news! Really nice to hear that crime has not paid in this case.

I have a bunch of Lowrance knobs in the bsmt collecting dust if Jim can't find a set. You certainly can have a pair if you need them.

Chessie27 09-22-2013 08:37 AM

The bad guy probably figured you had forgotten all about a whole week later :eek:... dumbass! Glad to hear you got your unit back!! If the P.O.S.
was smart, he would have just sold your weigh points list and he could have made some real money!
Thanks for swinging over to Mike's yesterday, it was nice catching up. I can see me hitting that spot more than I should in the near future.

During the game today I will be working on getting you out to the gulf-stream!!!

5th Tuition 12-22-2013 11:35 PM

The last post from this thread was September. Fast forward to last Friday. Trial was set for Dec. 20th, and I guess the outcome is a matter of public record.

The guy who stole our electronics (from several boats) plead guilty and he will be spending several weekends behind bars. He also has to reimburse all of the victims for the equipment that was not recovered. Lastly, he will be on probation for 18 months. Restitution is part of the probation. If he hasn't paid restitution in 6 months, he goes back behind bars for his remaining 12 months.

The court set it up that way because so often restitution is awarded but not received.

I just thought I'd let you know the outcome of the case. Several people on both CBA and TF had a part in apprehending him.
5th (Marty)

Spot77 12-23-2013 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5th Tuition (Post 16946)
The last post from this thread was September. Fast forward to last Friday. Trial was set for Dec. 20th, and I guess the outcome is a matter of public record.

The guy who stole our electronics (from several boats) plead guilty and he will be spending several weekends behind bars. He also has to reimburse all of the victims for the equipment that was not recovered. Lastly, he will be on probation for 18 months. Restitution is part of the probation. If he hasn't paid restitution in 6 months, he goes back behind bars for his remaining 12 months.

The court set it up that way because so often restitution is awarded but not received.

I just thought I'd let you know the outcome of the case. Several people on both CBA and TF had a part in apprehending him.
5th (Marty)

While out checking our beaches one night last month I walked down to a remote area where kids like to drink and get their freak on. It's absolutely pitch black down that way and one has to travel a path through tall phragmites to get there. Getting closer I saw a big white shape on the beach. I thought, "Oh great, I'm gonna' have to break up a young love fest" as it looked like a few blankets spread out and some people underneath. Got closer and hit it with my flashlight....It was a rigid bottom inflatable that had washed up on the beach.....a very nice one.

Someone had popped the air release on one side of the boat, but not the other. I called one of our officers to help me get it up to level groud so I could secure it. Didn't want it floating away with high tide and becoming a hazard, or having the local hooligans setting it adrift.

Called DNR the next day. It had been reported stolen about a week earlier by one of B-Faithful's neighbors. The boat was stolen right off of their lift. The 9.9 was stolen off of it and then it seems the thieves tried to sink the boat.

Anyway,we contacted the owner and trucked the boat to the owner's house the next day. No damage to the boat, but it sucks to have to buy another outboard for it.

The power was OFF on the lift, so whoever stole it had to yank it off a lift that was nearly 4 feet above the water.

Brazen little punks. :mad:


Wonder if it could be the same people that stole from Marty's marina? I hope DNR was smart enough to do the math and check it out at least.

B-Faithful 12-23-2013 12:41 PM

Last year my neighbor had her Kayaks stolen right off her pier. They ended up catching the guys as they were doing it on the Magothy and Severn rivers and selling them on craigslist in Florida. However i dont think she received the kayak or compensation back.

Chessie27 12-24-2013 07:31 AM

Maybe he won't be able to pay the restitution on time and get locked up properly. No one should EVER mess with a man's waypoints!!! :D

Hopefully he learns his lesson and tells his criminal friends so they do too. Thanks for the follow up.

Skip 12-24-2013 05:55 PM

Since he was convicted - how about putting his name up for us ?

5th Tuition 12-24-2013 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skip (Post 16963)
Since he was convicted - how about putting his name up for us ?

I'm going to pass on this. He is 20 years old, and no other contact with the police. It might show up on the DNR blotter if you need it.
Besides, it's Christmas:)
5th (Marty)

P.S.
I just received my confirmation from District Court today confirming the verdict. That was quick.

5th Tuition 01-06-2015 12:19 PM

Well; we have a few inches of snow today and I just got back from court:eek:

I will make this a long post because there aren't any fishing reports being posted. This will give you all something to read, digest, and comment on:D

I'm going to make two posts: This first one will tell a true story about the current condition of our Country and how it impacts this theft and court case.


Let's begin:
I have a friend who fishes with me often throughout the year. He (as I was) is a State Employee and I am constantly asking him how much longer he has until retirement:roll eyes: He works for the State Roads division, and is the foreman of a shop that takes care of our roads. He takes his job seriously and does it well, too well.
As we headed to PLO for our final fishing trip, I asked him about retirement. His response was surprising, he said, "I almost quit several days ago". WHAT, there had to be a good story behind this:)
He said that a group of "supervisors" visited him at his shop and they told him he was doing TOO good of a job on the roads his shop maintained:eek:
They said that as motorists traveled from one maintenance area, into his maintenance area, and finally out of his area, there was a noticeable difference between areas. In essence, he was making the other areas look bad.
They told him he needed to ease up and NOT do as good a job:mad: He couldn't believe his ears. He asked them directly, "Are you telling me I am doing too good of a job, and you want me to do less?" They confirmed his assessment.
He told them that this wasn't going to happen, and they SUGGESTED that he could be "written up" for not cooperating. He told them that he would like to see them reprimand him for doing too good of a job.
The "meeting" ended with him feeling that he would continue to provide the same level of service to the citizens of Maryland as he had in the past.
However; the end of the story is that several weeks later, the "supervisors" took maintenance trucks away from him, so therefore his quality of service would go down and they would win the battle.
He was furious.

So, if you had any trouble with the way the roads looked this morning, you can thank the superior desk jockey's of Maryland who never sit behind a snow plow.

How is this related to my ongoing court case against the person who stole our electronics? It is an example of how we (the citizens) have allowed the politicians to "dumb down" the system. We continually lower our expectations and requirements for people.
This was demonstrated time after time this morning as I sat through court case after court case.
5th

5th Tuition 01-06-2015 01:58 PM

Quick background:
On 9-12-13 there was a theft of our electronics. I say our, because six boats at my marina were "hit".

On 12-20-13, trial was held and the defendant plead guilty and was given several weekends behind bars, and given 18 months probation, however, he was released for the first six months in order to work and pay restitution of $2600. If restitution was not paid, he was to go back in jail for the remaining 12 months of his sentence.

Fast forward to July 2014. His six months was up, and no restitution had been paid. I called the court system and spoke to the person who was supervising his case. I was informed that no restitution had been paid, however, the defendant claimed he was pursuing a job opportunity and could then pay us back.
I told the supervisor that's what was supposed to happen during the last 6 months.
August 2014: I called to see the status of this case (I'm like a dog with a bone). I know they hated to here from me every month. Still no restitution, but the defendant was due in for "counseling" the following week. I told them I would call back later.
September, October, November; I kept calling and getting some "story" about why he was still walking around. I eventually told the court supervisor that I was as disgusted with him, as I was with the defendant. I told him that he was "enabling" the defendant to "game" the system. I told him I expected that of the defendant, but that it was his job to see that the original sentence was carried out. The supervisor said that he was going to write an "unfavorable" report and send it to the judge.
December 2014; I am notified that another court date (Jan 6th 2015) had been set up for Violation of Probation.

Jan. 6th
Court case was set for 8:45 am. I slip and slide in my wife's Mazda Miata (sent her off to work in my "big ass truck" as she calls it) to court so I can speak with the prosecutor. My early arrival let me have a good discussion with the attorney.
We stepped out of the courtroom and into the hall, where I brought him up to speed on some of the aspects of the case.
I told him that I was sure that the defendants attorney was going to portray the defendant as some sort of victim. They always bring up an unhappy childhood, addiction to drugs or alcohol, or an unfavorable work environment as to reason why the defendants turned to crime.
I wanted the prosecutor and the judge to know that there was another viewpoint.

First:
At the original trial, the defendant had stolen enough electronics, and the monetary value was so high, that he was charged with a felony. The prosecutor asked us (the group of six) if we would consider reducing the charges from a felony to a misdemeanor. Because the defendant was young (22), we didn't want to saddle him with all the negatives that come from a felony conviction. So charges were reduced:roll eyes:

Second:
Although he stole many thousands of dollars of equipment, he was only required to pay restitution on a small portion of the value. Here's how that works. If he stole a fishfinder/gps worth $2000, and the insurance company reimbursed the owner $1500 (because there was a $500 deductible); the defendant was only required to pay the $500 deductible back to the owner:eek: If he sold the unit for $1000, he made a $500 profit:mad::mad:

Third:
The defendant violated his probation in July 2014, and in my viewpoint, he should have been either hauled back into court then, or been put in jail. He has been walking around for the past 6 months free as a bird. He was allowed to spend the Holidays with family and friends instead of being in jail.

Fourth:
I explained to the persecutor that we (the six) realized that as taxpayers, it would cost much more to incarcerate the defendant for his remaining 12 months (for a $2600 violation); however, we wanted a "message" sent to criminals "gaming" the system.

Fifth:
While we anticipated that the judge may consider "home detention" with an ankle bracelet; we supported incarceration.


So; take a minute to consider how you think the case turned out today. What do you think happened?


Results:
The defendant never showed up in court:eek::eek:
The judge issued a bench warrant for his arrest, and a $2600 bond was placed upon his head. Now here is speculation on my part. I believe this means that he will be picked up, arrested, and allowed to pay 10% of the bond (or $260) and he will walk out of the courthouse free again until another trial is set up (probably 6-9 months from now).
This will put us into September 2015. Two years after he stole our equipment:mad::mad:

Now remember back to what I said about how the system has lowered expectations. All morning, I watched the prosecutor and the defense attorneys make deals. I thought I was watching a game show on TV. Reduce charges, allow for "time served", postpone cases if defendants were in treatment or performing community service; all this being done in consideration of the defendant (not the victims).
The judge was about an hour late arriving because of the road conditions. I was considering asking the prosecutor if he wanted me to step up into the judges chair; but then I remembered why we were all sitting in the courtroom waiting for the judge to arrive. It bounces back to doing a crappy job getting the roads cleaned. Don't do an exceptional job; mediocre is the new standard:D
5th


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