Meeting Brandon?
 

Wondering if anyone made the trek to meet Brandon last night?

I only had a few ask and one commit to it. I mentally bailed on meeting with him after the lack of interest and the follow up info we gathered after the DNR meeting. I did commit to setting a meeting so I followed through. I do think its a good idea to accept his invitation and meet with him in the future. He proposed a gathering prior to his committee meetings.

I do not want to see anyone slamming him, though I will say I am very disappointed with the way the C/R topic was handled.
Thoughts on meeting him?

No interest here. I think it's a waste of time.

My $.02

I am not a fan of Mr. White. He came down from his mountain and revealed himself as something of an elitist. This was his first shot out of the gate and we were expecting something more. He made a private deal with the devil and didn't even allow DNR's proposal to be discussed. He is a major player in stopping a promising C&R trend that could have had legs had the Charter Boat Assn been willing to try something different instead the status quo C & Killing trips. Some Charter Captains want to, but are "discouraged". I don't trust Brandon now...Don

agree, I was gonna go, but after all the BS I could give two ****s about what he has to say now...you aren't gonna change his mind and he isn't going to change mine, so what's the point?

I think it is beneficial to speak to as many commissioners as possible regarding issues that are important to you. However, with limited time I believe it is best to focus your efforts on those that believe they actually represent you. The MSSA and CCA are organizations that I believe do so. That is why I opted to meet with Dave Sikorski of the CCA last night. He has a constituancy to answer to and will be held accountable by his membership.

Should Brandon have another meeting date and time, I may go. However given the fact that the DNR has already made a decision on this issue and will be moving towards public comment, meeting over this issue doesnt really serve a purpose. I still would like to see the ultimate position he took to the commission on the C&R issue though.

I agree with you all.

Brandon is no longer on my Christmas card list. 5th (Marty)

IMO, he's got stars in his eyes about being an active part of making fisheries legislation. He's trying to navigate in that world and the vets are playing him to suit their needs. You think it's a coincidence that HE was the one that proposed these BS changes?

And the MCBA boys played him like a violin.

I almost want to have a meeting with Brandon to see this model of effort he and his Statistician buddy have developed. Plus I have heard a lot of talk about research he has gathered from fishery biologist across the United States. I would love to read these and thump on them a little to see if the stand up experimentally and fit with current literature.

Morsax, and I have put some minor mental effort into general designs of measuring Sub lethal effects. It’s not as easy as one thinks. Effort can be measured easily and quickly.
The powers to be need to continue to use there phone survey effort count. In addition, implement a hard count measurement of anglers using the resource in early season. If the numbers come back close or identical then the current method works, if there is discrepancy between the two counting methods the assumption is one method is flawed and needs to be evaluated.


I think some a scared of real meaningful numbers.

I agree with you 100%...I want to see these numbers and where they come from. I have done TONS of statistical analysis over the years and know for a fact that you can do what you need to make the data say what you need it to say. I'd like to see their raw data and how they used it...could prove interesting...but I stand behind my current view that meeting with Brandon will accomplish nothing except piss me off more since he is not changing my mind and I am not changing his...

For me, Brandon has revealed his hand, or heart, and has a bias against trolling. Someone who is biased cannot be trusted to be in charge of rustling up data to prove their point. It reminds me of the watermen hiring their own research outfits to support their position that black is the best color for crab pot floats:rolleyes:. Or, the plastic bottling manufacturers that hire their own research outfits to produce evidence that there are no PCBs (at least non of which are harmful) in their product, and upon this Congress has relied:rolleyes::rolleyes:. I am not skilled enough to evaluate whatever it is that Brandon will come back with and appreciate Bob & Hans' efforts with this. Keep in mind, Brandon will probably go to great lengths to prove that he is right...Don

effem.....

Slayer; A man of few words. But I like what he says!!!!!! 5th (Marty)

Do not let this out - the Potomac river allowes C/R for Rock with barbless hooks. They have a different set of rules then Md waters do.

If all this BS really goes through - we can still fish there early on.

This is a great tidbit of information and should be shared with the masses. This should find it's way onto TF shortly after DNR issues it's final decree. This would be a sort of "Tea Party" like gesture by denying them our license dollars in favor of another jurisdiction that supports our views. Here is a link to PRFC which will explain the reciprocity provided with their license; it is actually better, in that it will allow you to fish in MD & Va portions of the Bay , as well as the Potomac ... http://www.prfc.state.va.us/sports/s...tm#reciprocity ....Don