02-04-2011, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by reds
one for the DNR selling the rockfish and keeping the money instead of giving it to charity.
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reds- there is actually a law (or laws) that allows the Law Enforcement Agency to Seize and sell the proceeds of "Illegal" activity. Like when the cars and trucks of Drug Dealers (with no valid income) are seized, sold and the money is put right back to the seizing agency. Also the cash that is seized in raids and such is put right back to the agency (actually it's not 100% but a large portion) that seized it.
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02-04-2011, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MdCrappie
reds- there is actually a law (or laws) that allows the Law Enforcement Agency to Seize and sell the proceeds of "Illegal" activity. Like when the cars and trucks of Drug Dealers (with no valid income) are seized, sold and the money is put right back to the seizing agency. Also the cash that is seized in raids and such is put right back to the agency (actually it's not 100% but a large portion) that seized it.
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Sounds like a gray area here, because there are no persons arrested and the nets should have been pulled when discovered, instead of being put back.
If they don't catch the poachers, they get to keep the proceeds from the sale.
Looks like an inducement to leave the nets over as long as possible.
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02-04-2011, 05:52 PM
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All of the illegal nets were removed by NRP and taken to Mattapeake along with the rock fish ( proceeds of a crime) This becomes property of the State (DNR) No need for any more speculation as the truth will be discovered in an investigation. This is a sad situation for all involved..........especially the rock fish...............Gary
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02-04-2011, 09:22 PM
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see the video here by wbal
http://www.baltimoresun.com/videobet...Chesapeake-Bay
note that there are two videos back to back. The second one follows the first.
Last edited by B-Faithful; 02-04-2011 at 09:37 PM.
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02-05-2011, 06:57 AM
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15,000 yards of illegal nets found last February according to the DNR in the video. Sounds like this problem is pretty big and not isolated. I do not remember hearing about this last year which makes me wonder.
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02-05-2011, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Hockleyneck
15,000 yards of illegal nets found last February according to the DNR in the video. Sounds like this problem is pretty big and not isolated. I do not remember hearing about this last year which makes me wonder.
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That's exactly what I was thinking. 15,000 and no news "flashes" nor "big" catches.
My take - Either this was a set-up or the Striper population in the bay has drastically improved.
What's your take?
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02-05-2011, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by MdCrappie
That's exactly what I was thinking. 15,000 and no news "flashes" nor "big" catches.
My take - Either this was a set-up or the Striper population in the bay has drastically improved.
What's your take?
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I think these nets were set by rouge waterman. Last year it would seem that the DNR wanted to keep this quiet which is interesting. It would seem the DNR is taking a different tact with the publicity of what appears to be a widespread problem.
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02-05-2011, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Hockleyneck
15,000 yards of illegal nets found last February according to the DNR in the video. Sounds like this problem is pretty big and not isolated. I do not remember hearing about this last year which makes me wonder.
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If DNR had reported 15,000 yards of illegal nets found last February and they had as much media attention; do you think they could have passed the new PSCR restrictions?
Six rods, no stingers, crimped barbs, and originally calling for only 3 days allowed to fish; why the fishing community would have seen this as what it is; a rediculous proposal .
DNR has become very proficient at playing the political game. I don't trust them . NRP did a nice job finding the nets, but DNR decided on the best way to promote the illegal activity. Last year no news; this year full coverage, sounds political to me Mr Marty Gary.
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02-05-2011, 09:17 AM
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Wish I was better at computer search.
Going from memory - I think there was a few news stories about the found gill nets from 2009 and also 2010. Seems it was in Sunpaper or Fisherman.
A few nets are found each year - this from DNR.
I'd guess the poachers set them and in 2-3 days , haul them up. Does not give DNR much time to find them.
I remember clearly on TF - maybe 3 years ago - guys posted GPS numbers for a sumberged net off radar screens at Ches. Beach. They hung up trolling gear and brought a piece of the net up.
Same thing in Potomac - up near #5 marker. Guys were snagging.
I think DNR went and got the nets up.
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02-05-2011, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 5th Tuition
If DNR had reported 15,000 yards of illegal nets found last February and they had as much media attention; do you think they could have passed the new PSCR restrictions?
Six rods, no stingers, crimped barbs, and originally calling for only 3 days allowed to fish; why the fishing community would have seen this as what it is; a rediculous proposal .
DNR has become very proficient at playing the political game. I don't trust them . NRP did a nice job finding the nets, but DNR decided on the best way to promote the illegal activity. Last year no news; this year full coverage, sounds political to me Mr Marty Gary.
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Marty, I love your passion/obsession with PSCR last year
I agree with you though, don't trust DNR, but don't trust MSSA or CCA either. No matter what they say, they will always do what's in their best interest.
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