DNR Continuing to Monitor for Bay Impacts

[5th Tuition]

I say we support another "study".

What a bunch of incompetent a$$holes we have elected. How proud they must be to know they have turned the worlds largest most productive estuary into a $hithole.

I guess I wouldn't be very good at writing political news releases.

5th (Marty)

[crabby and son]

Originally Posted by 5th Tuition

I say we support another "study".

What a bunch of incompetent a$$holes we have elected. How proud they must be to know they have turned the worlds largest most productive estuary into a $hithole.

I guess I wouldn't be very good at writing political news releases.

5th (Marty)

I have fished the bay for over 50 years and the early memories are nothing like what we have now. It's steadily gone down hill. SAD. I sort of wish I never saw it 50 years ago...........Gary

[Blakesdad]

Originally Posted by 5th Tuition

I say we support another "study".

What a bunch of incompetent a$$holes we have elected. How proud they must be to know they have turned the worlds largest most productive estuary into a $hithole.

I guess I wouldn't be very good at writing political news releases.

5th (Marty)

Marty, tell us how you really feel !!!

We can sit here and reminisce for days.. I'm younger than you old farts ( Kirk call your office)but I actually remember Charter Boats as thick as flies on a cow pie, under the bridge, literally watching sterns hit transoms, transoms hitting sterns, starboard's hitting port side. Fishing in barrel.. No limits and people were keeping everything...

And now, well, you know the rest of the story.....

[reds]

Originally Posted by 5th Tuition

I say we support another "study".

What a bunch of incompetent a$$holes we have elected. How proud they must be to know they have turned the worlds largest most productive estuary into a $hithole.

I guess I wouldn't be very good at writing political news releases.

5th (Marty)

Got to blame it on somebody.

Never mind the fact that there are 16.5 million people in this watershed. Up a million people from 2000.

Yeah it's the politician's fault.

[Fish Nut]

Yeah lets first talk about the flush tax. A so called shovel ready program. that gets radied. Dilution is the solution.

[crabby and son]

I'm past trying to place blame and pointing fingers. That will do nothing to clean up the bay. I'm past arguing on the internet boards. I am into doing something positive to make a difference no matter how small. It starts with me. The urine jug goes home instead of overboard. If a certain species of fish is in decline, I will take less and fish for other species. I will attend meetings and find out what's going on first hand instead of reading the spin on here. I will find ways to make a difference. That's a good start and I'll go from there. At least I will be able to look my Son in the face and tell him I tried to give him a good place to fish.............Gary

[5th Tuition]

Gary;
You are a piss ant (get the pun) in the scheme of things. The bay is so far gone, that no individual or group of individuals is going to turn things around. Only the Government (and normally I hate government projects) has the resourses to address the problem.
I heard a story about the sediment buildup behind the Conawingo Dam being so bad that if they started to remove boxcars full of sediment, it would take years to get it back to when it was built.
Sewage pumping plants dump thousands of gallons of raw sewage into the bay after a big rain storm. How many pee buckets have to come off your boat to make up for the difference?
I understand your theory about each individual taking action to do no harm to the bay; but it will not be enough to make an impact.
I am normally a very opptomistic person, but in reference to the Bay, I am pesimistic about it's recovery unless SOMEONE takes charge. I say someone, because the government is too ambiguose of a term. Why don't you know, the bay is already clean; it was supposed to be cleaned up by 2010 according to the government. Of course the dates just keep getting pushed back further and further when the goal is not met.

When I decide to run for office, I better get at least 20,000 votes from CBA's and TF'ers.
Marty

p.s. and while I'm on my soapbox; Brian, if you are going to try to discredit the lady, please spell her name correctly. I am tired of seeing Pallin on all your posts.

[Hockleyneck]

Originally Posted by 5th Tuition

Gary;
You are a piss ant (get the pun) in the scheme of things. The bay is so far gone, that no individual or group of individuals is going to turn things around. Only the Government (and normally I hate government projects) has the resourses to address the problem.
I heard a story about the sediment buildup behind the Conawingo Dam being so bad that if they started to remove boxcars full of sediment, it would take years to get it back to when it was built.
Sewage pumping plants dump thousands of gallons of raw sewage into the bay after a big rain storm. How many pee buckets have to come off your boat to make up for the difference?
I understand your theory about each individual taking action to do no harm to the bay; but it will not be enough to make an impact.
I am normally a very opptomistic person, but in reference to the Bay, I am pesimistic about it's recovery unless SOMEONE takes charge. I say someone, because the government is too ambiguose of a term. Why don't you know, the bay is already clean; it was supposed to be cleaned up by 2010 according to the government. Of course the dates just keep getting pushed back further and further when the goal is not met.

When I decide to run for office, I better get at least 20,000 votes from CBA's and TF'ers.
Marty

p.s. and while I'm on my soapbox; Brian, if you are going to try to discredit the lady, please spell her name correctly. I am tired of seeing Pallin on all your posts.

Can't say I have any faith in politicians either. One area we do disagree is that every little bit helps. An honest effort by each and every person makes a difference, and we owe this effort to each other.

[5th Tuition]

Rich; I have no problen with each of use doing their best to help clean up the bay. I applaude Gary and everyone else for "doing their part".

What I said was, "no individual or group of individuals is going to turn this around".

I would go so far as to say, if you took every recreational angler off the bay. Even this would not clean up the bay. Sediment from upstream would still cover the grasses and oysters killing them. Busineses would still be dumping polution into the bay. Sewage treatment plants would still be allowing thousands of gallons of raw sewage into the bay after heavy rains. Those oysters and menhaden that filter the bay will still be depleated to the point where they are no longer effective.
I could go on, but I hope you see my point. Each of us "should" do his part. However, we must be honest with ourselves and admit we can not clean the bay on our own. We need help on a grand scale.
5th (Marty)