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Old 02-23-2010, 10:47 AM
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http://www.dnr.state.md.us/fisheries...009summary.pdf



I have lots of thoughts on this but dont feel like typing.
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Old 02-23-2010, 11:21 AM
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I got a pretty good idea who the angler reporting 21 trips was. Any survey or attempt to monitor catch is better than none.........Gary
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Old 02-23-2010, 12:22 PM
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First Chart of the C/R season shows 53% jigging, 29% trolling and 11% bottom fishing.....Hmmmmmmmmmm

Second Chart shows guys releasing smaller fish to keep the big ones. No surprise but disappointing non the less. Hard to blame someone for keeping a big legal fish. I'd like to see a slot.

Third chart shows no surprise either, however we all know about water quality/temps vs survivability of hooked fish. Its time to increase the size limits to give these fish time to mature and become part of the breeding stock. Circle hooks are a good thing. How about the guy who kept the 11" striper


Love the last two sentences;
THANKS FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION!
YOUR DATA PLAYS A CRUCIAL ROLE IN FISHERIES MANAGEMENT

REALLY. Who knows what to make of DNR and Fisheries Mgmt. at this point. I started participating in the survey but stopped with all of the brew ha ha. Maybe Brandon was right, I'm getting paranoid. Think I'll keep to myself and shut up.

Be sure to post your Flats survey guys
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Old 02-23-2010, 03:44 PM
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Wow, so more fish are caught jigging than trolling. To help the fish, they limit trolling- go figure.
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Old 02-23-2010, 04:48 PM
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Wow, so more fish are caught jigging than trolling. To help the fish, they limit trolling- go figure.
Probably all of The Flats fish reported. If you look at the trophy season, 99% trolling.
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Old 02-23-2010, 08:30 PM
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Wow, so more fish are caught jigging than trolling. To help the fish, they limit trolling- go figure.
I am sure it is a very small sampling of volunteer fisherman. The point I certainly would make is that it flies in the face of Maryland DNRs regulations that go beyond ensuring low mortality rates and after reducing effort of trollers. They obviously dont know or have any indication of what methods of fishing are yeilding the most fish per angler.

I hope this thread doesnt discourage anyone from participating in the survey as everything helps in accurate data collection so the fishery can be managed properly. I just wanted to share since it was recently posted by dnr
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Old 02-23-2010, 09:45 PM
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I'm not going to participate, or take any stock in any survey to give more ammo to the "my method is better than your method so they should restrict your method not my method and leave me alone" argument. With such a small sampling all it takes is a few people to make stuff up to skew the results. Really, 77 total fish during C&R? That doesn't tell you anything...155 fish during trophy season??? 93 anglers and 262 total trips? I fish nearly 100 days a year some years...so this would be 2.5 of me and less of a lot of fishermen I know on this board...No statistician worth a $hit would even publish that because it presents no real information...just gives statistically irrelevant information that can be skewed whatever way special interest groups of any affiliation can wants...

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Old 02-23-2010, 10:14 PM
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I'm not going to participate, or take any stock in any survey to give more ammo to the "my method is better than your method so they should restrict your method not my method and leave me alone" argument. With such a small sampling all it takes is a few people to make stuff up to skew the results. Really, 77 total fish during C&R? That doesn't tell you anything...155 fish during trophy season??? 93 anglers and 262 total trips? I fish nearly 100 days a year some years...so this would be 2.5 of me and less of a lot of fishermen I know on this board...No statistician worth a $hit would even publish that because it presents no real information...just gives statistically irrelevant information that can be skewed whatever way special interest groups of any affiliation can wants...
I'm in total agreement Mark....statistically insignificant.....heck we caught almost as many fish as the whole survey that day you, Paul and myself went out.....and kept what? 2 that were deep hooked and probably wouldn't have survived anyway.
As much as I dislike the whole idea (and the Big Brotherization), maybe the Natl Saltwater Angler registry will be able to supply better data.
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Old 02-23-2010, 10:33 PM
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I'm in total agreement Mark....statistically insignificant.....heck we caught almost as many fish as the whole survey that day you, Paul and myself went out.....and kept what? 2 that were deep hooked and probably wouldn't have survived anyway.
As much as I dislike the whole idea (and the Big Brotherization), maybe the Natl Saltwater Angler registry will be able to supply better data.
Steve,
My point exactly!!! And i hope you are right about the registry. I also think that the people out fishing not catching any fish aren't putting their skunks up on that survey either...so many things wrong with it, too many to list!
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Old 02-24-2010, 07:45 AM
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I'm not going to participate, or take any stock in any survey to give more ammo to the "my method is better than your method so they should restrict your method not my method and leave me alone" argument. With such a small sampling all it takes is a few people to make stuff up to skew the results. Really, 77 total fish during C&R? That doesn't tell you anything...155 fish during trophy season??? 93 anglers and 262 total trips? I fish nearly 100 days a year some years...so this would be 2.5 of me and less of a lot of fishermen I know on this board...No statistician worth a $hit would even publish that because it presents no real information...just gives statistically irrelevant information that can be skewed whatever way special interest groups of any affiliation can wants...
I agree. It's good to withhold your data from the DNR. The more data you withhold, the more the DNR has to go with what special interest people present.

Love those special interest people.
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