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Old 02-05-2011, 06:57 AM
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15,000 yards of illegal nets found last February according to the DNR in the video. Sounds like this problem is pretty big and not isolated. I do not remember hearing about this last year which makes me wonder.
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Old 02-05-2011, 07:10 AM
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15,000 yards of illegal nets found last February according to the DNR in the video. Sounds like this problem is pretty big and not isolated. I do not remember hearing about this last year which makes me wonder.
That's exactly what I was thinking. 15,000 and no news "flashes" nor "big" catches.

My take - Either this was a set-up or the Striper population in the bay has drastically improved.

What's your take?
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Old 02-05-2011, 08:01 AM
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That's exactly what I was thinking. 15,000 and no news "flashes" nor "big" catches.

My take - Either this was a set-up or the Striper population in the bay has drastically improved.

What's your take?
I think these nets were set by rouge waterman. Last year it would seem that the DNR wanted to keep this quiet which is interesting. It would seem the DNR is taking a different tact with the publicity of what appears to be a widespread problem.
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Old 02-05-2011, 08:05 AM
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15,000 yards of illegal nets found last February according to the DNR in the video. Sounds like this problem is pretty big and not isolated. I do not remember hearing about this last year which makes me wonder.
If DNR had reported 15,000 yards of illegal nets found last February and they had as much media attention; do you think they could have passed the new PSCR restrictions?
Six rods, no stingers, crimped barbs, and originally calling for only 3 days allowed to fish; why the fishing community would have seen this as what it is; a rediculous proposal.
DNR has become very proficient at playing the political game. I don't trust them. NRP did a nice job finding the nets, but DNR decided on the best way to promote the illegal activity. Last year no news; this year full coverage, sounds political to me Mr Marty Gary.
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Old 02-05-2011, 09:17 AM
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Wish I was better at computer search.

Going from memory - I think there was a few news stories about the found gill nets from 2009 and also 2010. Seems it was in Sunpaper or Fisherman.

A few nets are found each year - this from DNR.

I'd guess the poachers set them and in 2-3 days , haul them up. Does not give DNR much time to find them.

I remember clearly on TF - maybe 3 years ago - guys posted GPS numbers for a sumberged net off radar screens at Ches. Beach. They hung up trolling gear and brought a piece of the net up.

Same thing in Potomac - up near #5 marker. Guys were snagging.

I think DNR went and got the nets up.
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Old 02-05-2011, 11:26 AM
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Last years busts made the news too.

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/201...ck-hall-harbor

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Officers seized approximately 16,500 yards of illegally anchored gill (approximately 55 nets) and 3,200 pounds of rockfish during the last week and half of February...
fyi: 16,500 yards = 9.375 miles of illegal nets last year in the last week and a half of Feb 2010 alone!

Heck, Dont forget even last fall there were busts:
http://www.mssa.net/newsarticles/roc...Nov25_2010.pdf

DNR press release on the reward for the current theives: http://www.dnr.maryland.gov/fisherie...ill-Net-Season
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Old 02-05-2011, 12:16 PM
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If DNR had reported 15,000 yards of illegal nets found last February and they had as much media attention; do you think they could have passed the new PSCR restrictions?
Six rods, no stingers, crimped barbs, and originally calling for only 3 days allowed to fish; why the fishing community would have seen this as what it is; a rediculous proposal.
DNR has become very proficient at playing the political game. I don't trust them. NRP did a nice job finding the nets, but DNR decided on the best way to promote the illegal activity. Last year no news; this year full coverage, sounds political to me Mr Marty Gary.
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Marty, I love your passion/obsession with PSCR last year
I agree with you though, don't trust DNR, but don't trust MSSA or CCA either. No matter what they say, they will always do what's in their best interest.
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Old 02-05-2011, 12:41 PM
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DNR is pushing several Bills which give them increased, intrusive police powers which they currently don't have. Don't you think all of this publicity is happening for a reason? DNR's pushing all of the buttons they can to get a favorable result on their Bills. If they don't come up with somebody who is repsonsible for these nets, I'm going to start believing the conspiracy theories about DNR having a hand in it.
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Old 02-05-2011, 04:33 PM
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Marty, I love your passion/obsession with PSCR last year
I agree with you though, don't trust DNR, but don't trust MSSA or CCA either. No matter what they say, they will always do what's in their best interest.
Thanks; I feel I have to keep rubbing their noses in such a stupid decision.

As for trusting DNR, MSSA, CCA, or any organization, I think they are all suspected of being to "political". I believe the "grass roots" of the organizations are made up of good people trying to do an honest days work, but the upper divisions are made up of to many people who know how to "play the game".
Rham Emanuel expressed it rather nicely when he said "never let a crises go to waste". It clearly shows how politicians think; and why we should be skeptical of their actions.
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Old 02-06-2011, 04:28 PM
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Well isn't this just terrible news on several levels. I am pretty upset about this.

First, these guys should all be shot. They are stealing, plain and simple.

Second, they are cruel. I dont want to hear any more comments about how I should or should not handle a fish. They are straining the bay with gill nets for crying out loud.

Third, stop bitching about C&R causing damage to the fish. These poachers killed 7,000 pound of fish. C&R is not going to put anywhere near a dent into the fish population like the poachers. If we just enforced the existing laws, people wouldn't feel like we need more.

Lastly, and most importantly, I have perpetually used poachers as the number one reason why on my best day I am only medicore at catching rockfish. Fewer fish means they are harder to catch. Catching the poachers is going to mess with my most reliable excuse!

Seriously now....I hope they catch them all and prosecute them to the highest standard of the law.
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