Around the Judge shop

[MdCrappie]

Originally Posted by B-Faithful

I just cannot meaure or see where the beam exceeds 8'6".

Ignorance of the law is not a valid excuse. Ideally since the Builders Specs of the vessel indicate you would need a permit to travel the roads in Md you should go to SHA and have them determine whether or not you need a permit.
Then if over the 102" you can pay the $500 yearly fee.......or take your chances, violate the law, and hope to not get caught more than 3 times ($140 each) and you would still be under the $500. Just the cost of doing business idea right? Kinda like the other group of fishermen you seem to always be getting on for "violations".

[JigStix]

"the ultimate trailerable boat"
Time for a new slogan? That delete thread button looking good?

[5th Tuition]

If the judge is 8'10" that would be fine with me. I could always use an extra 4". On my 22 wa Angler, it gets pretty tight between the seats when you go below to get rods or tackle.
If I owned a Judge 27 and it was 4" over the max trailerable limit; I'd just have to chance it and trailer it without permit. I'd be a real outlaw in the state of Maryland.
If I had a Judge, I might even go so far as to put out 7 rods in the spring and leave my NOAA card at home.

Just got back from Christmas service, feeling all warm and fuzzy; so I would probably keep my NOAA card with me.

Merry Christmas to everyone, I hope you get whatever was on your wish list. My daughter and son in law are in Japan this Christmas, so we skyped with them for about an hour. I hope your family is close and your holidays are blessed.
5th (Marty)

[reds]

Originally Posted by 5th Tuition

If the judge is 8'10" that would be fine with me. I could always use an extra 4". On my 22 wa Angler, it gets pretty tight between the seats when you go below to get rods or tackle.
If I owned a Judge 27 and it was 4" over the max trailerable limit; I'd just have to chance it and trailer it without permit. I'd be a real outlaw in the state of Maryland.
If I had a Judge, I might even go so far as to put out 7 rods in the spring and leave my NOAA card at home.

Just got back from Christmas service, feeling all warm and fuzzy; so I would probably keep my NOAA card with me.

Merry Christmas to everyone, I hope you get whatever was on your wish list. My daughter and son in law are in Japan this Christmas, so we skyped with them for about an hour. I hope your family is close and your holidays are blessed.
5th (Marty)

Yeah. But you see there is a couple of problems that could arise.

One being liability. Insurance companies can wiggle out of their responsibility to insure where a knowing law has been broken. Never mind that you are endangering life and limb of those who are on the same road as you are traveling.

Two being. On certain roads in the state of Maryland the 4" becomes 10" over width and the fine could be thousands. Secondary roads are 8' width not 8'6".

[MdCrappie]

Originally Posted by 5th Tuition

If the judge is 8'10" that would be fine with me. I could always use an extra 4". On my 22 wa Angler, it gets pretty tight between the seats when you go below to get rods or tackle.
If I owned a Judge 27 and it was 4" over the max trailerable limit; I'd just have to chance it and trailer it without permit. I'd be a real outlaw in the state of Maryland.
If I had a Judge, I might even go so far as to put out 7 rods in the spring and leave my NOAA card at home.

Just got back from Christmas service, feeling all warm and fuzzy; so I would probably keep my NOAA card with me.

Merry Christmas to everyone, I hope you get whatever was on your wish list. My daughter and son in law are in Japan this Christmas, so we skyped with them for about an hour. I hope your family is close and your holidays are blessed.
5th (Marty)

Yeah the old double standard. Complain about Commercial Waterman fishing oysters on sanctuaries or anchoring nets....(and that's the "cost of doing business" and wrong)...but then go and do something at actually endangers another human beings property and/or life.....yeah that's OK. There are reasons why with the permits you are only allowed to travel during certain times of the day.

What a hypocrite! (This is not just directed at Marty as I'm sure quite a few others here have the same mind set.)

BTW - Here is a link to the SHA Permits. If you actually read the requirements you would probably think about buying any boat over 102" to keep on a trailer.

http://www.sha.maryland.gov/oots/MD_...mit_manual.pdf

[B-Faithful]

I have been known to drive over the speed limit at times too.. I am a real danger on the roads. insurance cannot get out of their responsibilites because of it.

Judges are custom boats. mine has a thinner rubrail that saves ~2" off each side.

Bill has just declared a big sale.. All 27 Chesapeakes ordered before the Open House will be rebated the cost of a year long tow permit key word for the rebate: "Reds"

Merry Christmas all!

[B-Faithful]

LOL.. According to the law:

Width
measurement is exclusive of safety and energy conservation devices, such as side mirrors,
turn signal lamps, marker lamps, steps and handhold for entry and egress, flexible fender
extensions, mudflaps and spray suppressant devices, and load induced tire bulges; providing
the equipment or devices other than mirrors, does not extend more than three inches on each
side of the vehicle beyond the statutory width limitation.

The rubrail is just over 2" on each side making up a total of 4" or so. Therefore the boat itself has a beam of 8'6" with the rubrail making up the entire Judge stated 8'10" beam. The Rubrail is a "safety bumper" 100% legal and I would fight it in court!

[5th Tuition]

What could be better than a few snow fluries on Christmas morning.

Merry Christmas to all.

p.s. I got a small waterproof camera to take lots of photo's this coming fishing season.

5th (Marty)

[Fish Nut]

Merry Christmas to all also.

watch it the camera could be used to document all of those fish you knock in the head with the net !!!

[MdCrappie]

Originally Posted by B-Faithful

I have been known to drive over the speed limit at times too.. I am a real danger on the roads. insurance cannot get out of their responsibilites because of it.

contributory negligence
n : (law) behavior by the plaintiff that contributes to the harm
resulting from the defendant's negligence; in common law
any degree of contributory negligence would bar the
plaintiff from collecting damages

I tell you what - wreck your boat speeding down the highway without a permit and see what happens.