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Old 02-25-2011, 05:07 PM
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A week ago I passed a gas station that was advertising non-ethyanol @ $3.29/gal. Today I passed a regular station and the e-10 is now up to $3.25/gal which will put non-ethyanol at $3.45/gal. I hope we see a drop but with Obama in office they will continue to rise. Bob
Your gonna blame this on O Bama ??

Please, tell the class, how so ????

Oh I know.. Obama wasn;t born here, he's from Egypt OR Libya.. No birth certificate.... He caused the uprisings with a secret communique and has the whole middle east in an uproar...

Silly me... What was I thinking ????
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Old 02-25-2011, 06:37 PM
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I feel like I hit the lottery. I filled up my Excursion on Wednesday night at Giant. The regular price was $3.06 and I had .30 off in Gas rewards so I filled it up at $2.76 a gallon.

Today the price at Giant was $3.23 gallon!
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Old 02-25-2011, 09:01 PM
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I filled up my Excursion on Wednesday night at Giant. The regular price was $3.06 and I had .30 off in Gas rewards so I filled it up at $2.76 a gallon
What! No oil burner? 4 shame
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Old 02-26-2011, 02:40 AM
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I don't have to respond to every thread, I don't have to respond to every thread, I don;t have to respond to every thread.. oh WTF.....


How we all forget, " The Bush Years".....
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Old 02-26-2011, 02:45 AM
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And your favorite App, for your phones should be:

Gasbuddy.com Its free, and very interesting.

Whoever mentioned Giant and the Shell discount, I'd be curious how long it lasts, but it does seem very useful. Most Shells have 5 cents off Thursdays, add week of groceries, for us it ALWAYS $200. So thats 20 cents off, add the five cents off, that's 25 cents per gallon. My tank holds 22. So for the sake of argument, 20 gallons times 25 cents. Save 5 bucks.... Kinda makes it more tolerable.
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So thats 20 cents off, add the five cents off, that's 25 cents per gallon. My tank holds 22. So for the sake of argument, 20 gallons times 25 cents. Save 5 bucks.... .
so things are looking up - how much would you have to buy to save enough for that new boat?

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Old 02-26-2011, 09:38 AM
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I don't have to respond to every thread, I don't have to respond to every thread, I don;t have to respond to every thread.. oh WTF.....


How we all forget, " The Bush Years".....
And in fairness, from 2006 on Democrats controlled Congress.

Prices tanked at the 2008 elections and now they're going right back up.

Your chart leaves out other worldwide contributing factors for either the prior or current administration.
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Old 02-26-2011, 12:31 PM
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Blakesdad, Thank you for the chart. It clearly shows (almost to the day) that when Obama got sworn in as president, George Bush had oil way down in price. But as soon as Obama got sworn into office the price started going up and has not stopped. In fairness I will not say it is all Obamas' fault. It is half Obamas' fault and the other half was his Demo. controlled congress!.

Not starting a Demo. vs. GOP war but that's how I see it. Bob
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I won't get into that war either, however, if an explanation is that simple its like getting something for free, you are missing something, so here are a few things folks are missing....

1> When the economy tanked in November of 2008 the Opec nations had to reduce prices because not only was gasoline being bought at historic lows but all products that depended on crude (like plastics, energy prodcution non-gas, synthetics, etc..) grinded to a production halt. Without "artificiallly" lowering the price of oil to where it should not have been, these products would not have been able to recover and would have hurt Opec nations future sales.

2> Stocks began an historic rise from 2008 to the present. If you watch the high and low dips with the market, oil for once did not have an inverse relationship with stocks...For that matter if you look at the macro-economics all types of investment commodities (oil, gold, silver), stocks (public and private), as well as personal savings and 401K deposit rates have all grown at rates never seen before. This is an anomally that will not continue...Gold will stabalize, oil prices will retreat to the mid to high 80's, people will begin to consume more and save less.....

3> If you take a closer look at that chart...You see the mean price of gas, during these turbulent times is around 2.80....Although I would like it to be lower, with inflation over the years that is probabaly about where it should be....If the price is around mid 80 per barrell, then gas will fall back into that 2.80 range...

4> Take a longer look than 60 months....More like 10 or 20 years....You will notice similar dips and spikes like 2008 however long term the chart looks very much the same, if you take out the complete abberations like the 6 months ending 2008. It has pretty much risen with inflation...Take the outliers out (the top and botton 10 to 20% spikes) and the charts pretty much rise with inflation, GDP, the Dow, and personal income over the last 10 to 20 years...

5> We need our politicians (republicans and democrats) to do a better job with our "allies"....How many of you know that our largest source of oil imports is actually from Canada ? Mexico is number 2 ? Britian is 9 ? Brazil and Venezuala are 10 and 4 ? The truth is out of the top 10 countries we import oil from 3, maybe 4 could be called middle eastern....I say its not repubs and dems but the system as a whole...We support the countries day in and day out and yet they (our non middle eastern allies) are the ones making us pay more at the pump...

6> I know I am forgetting a ton of factors, but I think we all need to understand there is more than 1, 2, or 3 sides to any story...This is a perfect example...Too many factors policitcal, environmental, social, economic, etc...play into this equation to "blame" any one area...In the end, it just sucks for all of us.....

Finally, please forgive any notion that I may know anything about this at all...I am not that smart, don't catch enough fish, and I still looking for a beer today...I will go back to my "normal" self now....

Good luck if any of you get out this weekend !
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Your gonna blame this on O Bama ??

Please, tell the class, how so ????

Oh I know.. Obama wasn;t born here, he's from Egypt OR Libya.. No birth certificate.... He caused the uprisings with a secret communique and has the whole middle east in an uproar...

Silly me... What was I thinking ????
Well, not bashing the guy at all, but so far he hasn't done anything except let the free market do its thing. I'm all about capitalism, so I have no beef with that.

Anything Big O does will only be a temporary patch to placate the masses anyway. Release some of our strategic reserves? Might knock 10 cents off the price in a little while. The fact is, we're so dependent on foreign oil that there's very little that this, or any administration could do EXCEPT for getting the oil we already have in our own country.

I read today that we have a minimum of 200 year supply located from Canada down through the Dakotas, and some people are estimating it could be as much as a 2,000 year supply.

I'm no geologist, so I don't have a clue about the accuaracy of that...seems an awfully big variance.

But I don't foresee our current administration putting anything in motion to harvest that light sweet crude. The wheels need to be turning in high gear right now in order to make a difference years from now.

So while there's nothing President Obama could really do about the current prices, he can do something about future prices.

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