Judge 22 Lite Tackle Edition

[boondoggle]

What's different from the current 22? Aside from the 150 to make it a value package? I'm genuinely interested and not poking you in the eye.

[B-Faithful]

It is a functional boat without all the unnecessary stuff that can get in the way fly fishing or light tackle fishing and the stuff that drives up the cost of the boat. It has a smaller console (like that of the cockpit station in his 36'ers) to maximize deck space, no tabs, or washdown either. The boat is standard without seating but leaning post can be had for around $800 or other seat options are available too. Boat will still be made of all wood free products, poly tank, etc and of the the newer Judge 22 mold with the wide reverse chines. It also has light tackle/fly fishing necessary things like pop-up cleats and lights so there is nothing for lines to be hung up on. She will scoot along well with the 140 too.

Bill is building the first one right now for himself unless someone buys it...

[B-Faithful]

Bills boat is done and in the water...

I still would rather his 36 in the background but it is a nice functional boat

She rolls 37.9mph (33knots) at WOT with the 140 zuke. She sips fuel!

[JigStix]

Bill makes a fine boat, and please do not take this the wrong way but THAT is $25-30K????
That seems like way to high a price point for very little boat. I saw Parkers at the boat show in that size range, with a few more frills for WAY less. The 27 Chesapeake seems to be semi-reasonably priced but for a boat that size I can't see choosing a Judge at that price when there are comparable boats for much less.

I was hoping Bill would make a boat in the neighborhood of 17 feet, but if the price point is going to be that high it may not be worth his time. Again, please do not take this the wrong way, just some food for thought.

[Billj]

I think you need to re-check your prices.

Anyway, we have sold 3 as of Friday.

Bill

[reds]

Originally Posted by JigStix

Bill makes a fine boat, and please do not take this the wrong way but THAT is $25-30K????
That seems like way to high a price point for very little boat. I saw Parkers at the boat show in that size range, with a few more frills for WAY less. The 27 Chesapeake seems to be semi-reasonably priced but for a boat that size I can't see choosing a Judge at that price when there are comparable boats for much less.

I was hoping Bill would make a boat in the neighborhood of 17 feet, but if the price point is going to be that high it may not be worth his time. Again, please do not take this the wrong way, just some food for thought.

I seriously doubt new 21 Parkers are bringing less then the Judge boats, of the same size. I'd guess the 2010 21' Parkers are selling in the upper 30's with a 150hp motor.

Edit: I did some checking and the Parkers are in the upper 30's but with some add on's.

I don't own either type but have owned a Parker, which I bought new. My advice, buy the Judge, the Parkers are over priced and the service stinks.

[JigStix]

If you read my post rather than just skim it I said AT THE BOAT SHOW. I was not insulting the boat, so don't get all of your panties up in a wad, I just said there is nothing to that boat, no options, just a hull and a console and that seems like a lot of money. I do not own a parker, nor would I ever (I own an Albemarle that I keep in OC for offshore which is why I was interested in a smaller boat for the bay), but at that price I would not buy a Judge in the size range unless there were more options. I'm sure once you add any options we are getting into a much higher price bracket. The Parker had many more options (that I saw at THE BOAT SHOW). I am glad you have sold three. I had heard rumors you were having a rough year or two so that is good to hear. As a small business owner myself I am glad to see local businesses doing so well. Now get to work on a 17 or so with a good price and you can sell another boat.

[Billj]

I'll just cut 5 feet off. Ok, hmmmmmm, 20k

[B-Faithful]

JigStix, I know Bill and I are pretty good at keeping up with the competitions pricing. The number you may have seen for the Parker was their "commercial hull". The listed pricing on that didnt include the motor or any rigging. Typically the 21se sells for more than regular Judge 22cc, which includes more of the bells and wistles such as tabs, washdown, leaning post, etc. The standard Judge 22 lists for about 33k with a single Honda 150.

Bill used to make a 19'. I am sure if you go over and talk to him, he will make you deal on one.

[JigStix]

Originally Posted by B-Faithful

JigStix, I know Bill and I are pretty good at keeping up with the competitions pricing. The number you may have seen for the Parker was their "commercial hull". The listed pricing on that didnt include the motor or any rigging. Typically the 21se sells for more than regular Judge 22cc, which includes more of the bells and wistles such as tabs, washdown, leaning post, etc. The standard Judge 22 lists for about 33k with a single Honda 150.

Bill used to make a 19'. I am sure if you go over and talk to him, he will make you deal on one.

B Faithful, I actually am planning to talk to Bill (19 is a little bigger than I'd like though but it may be worth it) As far as the Parker I saw was fully rigged, with a Yamaha, and extra options, but it is neither here nor there. But again, it was a boat show special. I don't plan to purchase a boat in that size, i need something smaller that I can use in the back bays of OC and trailer easily with my truck to my bay house. Thanks for the help