Holy Crap!!

[reds]

Originally Posted by B-Faithful

I should note that I also fear people screaming about release mortality too. Though I believe the release mortality to be very low (especially in the colder water) and the slot will reduce overall mortality, it is only going to take a few photos of floating big fish to tug at some's heart strings. The battle over C&R will heat up again too.

You may want to call DNR and ask, but I believe a tail squeeze is the correct way to keep yourself out of trouble.

[Skip]

Reds / others - When we had the slot limit before , a good friend of mine was checked at Sandy Point by two DNR officers.

The fish was just a kiss under 36 when on measuring stick but over a kiss when officer pinched the tail.

The two officers were not sure which was correct way to measure. One wanted to give him a citation - other thought fish was legal.

My friend argued the point - sounded like it got ugly real quick , knowing him.

End result - DNR let him keep the fish but told him next time to pinch the tail.

Now it gets better - same guy , week later at Solomons with a pinched tail Rock at 40 1/4. Officer checks and flat tail it is just under 40 inches.

He explained what officers at Sandy Point had told him - this officer said that was wrong.

I agree - the slot makes for honest mistakes. IMHO - 36 flat tail is simple / easy.

With this new slot - I'll likely C/R any just over 35 inches to avoid confusion. Over 40's I usually C/R anyway.

[B-Faithful]

Reds I believe you are correct that it is the pinched tail.

However this all goes to my point that there will be confusion, especially with the occasional weekend warriors, and this will cause more problems than the simplified 36" and up regulations (to which the ASMFC Technical committee and Law Enforcement Committee both recommended)

Either way, I don't care but see where the no take slot may cause more PR problems.

[reds]

Originally Posted by B-Faithful

Reds I believe you are correct that it is the pinched tail.

However this all goes to my point that there will be confusion, especially with the occasional weekend warriors, and this will cause more problems than the simplified 36" and up regulations (to which the ASMFC Technical committee and Law Enforcement Committee both recommended)

Either way, I don't care but see where the no take slot may cause more PR problems.

IIRC< I was at a TFAC meeting when the subject was brought up. The DNR high ranking officer said the tail had to be pinched to measure.

28 to 36" saves the cows and stops the crying from the people who can not catch, but think it's the lack of fish.

[Rivercat09]

IMHO, the new regs should be:

Spring, (1) fish 28"-36", barbless hooks only

May-15-Dec-15, (1) fish 20"-28"

[Shore Thing]

Originally Posted by Rivercat09

IMHO, the new regs should be:

Spring, (1) fish 28"-36", barbless hooks only

May-15-Dec-15, (1) fish 20"-28"

I agree so long as the fishery is really as bad as some claim. I don't think it is. It's funny to me MSSA and the likes are the same groups saying there are no rockfish yet lobbying to have an over 40" limit.

[cletus9000]

Originally Posted by Rivercat09

IMHO, the new regs should be:

Spring, (1) fish 28"-36", barbless hooks only

May-15-Dec-15, (1) fish 20"-28"

I agree with this 100%.

[Tawn]

FWIW, one fish per person after 15 May would be devastating to the charter industry. While I am sure some would be okay with that, others aren't.

I agree with Greg, a lot of parties wait all year for trophy season so they can get their shot at big fish, however, there is also a large number of people who specifically wait until trophy season ends so that they can keep two fish.

Not many parties are going to be willing to pay $700+ to take home one 20" fish.

My fear is the number of 18" - 19 7/8" fish that will be killed while sorting through them to get a limit of 20"+ fish, especially come mid-August through September.

[bhl]

Originally Posted by Rivercat09

IMHO, the new regs should be:

Spring, (1) fish 28"-36", barbless hooks only

May-15-Dec-15, (1) fish 20"-28"

One fish in the summer might be OK for people that can get out and fish whenever they want, but I guarantee that my customers won't like the idea. Don't forget that for many charter customers, it is their only trip of the year.
I say let 'em eat