Spot Burning - wonder how Rex feels about this?

[Steve F]

Originally Posted by trapshoot

With all the bad that goes on in this world I wonder why so many ppl worry about spot burning. I just dont understand the selfishness wanting to keep it all to them self.
Vince

Vince,
Here’s my take on selfishness, 7 or 8 years ago I took a guy fishing because he wanted to learn the Patapsco River so I told him I would take him out with me and show him a few spots. Well we fished for about 3 hours and we never even put a fish over the rail so I told him that I have a spot that not many guys know about and I would like to keep it that way. So off we went and as soon as we pulled up I seen nothing but fish on the fish finder so I just knew we were going to catch something. His first drop he pulls in a 30” the biggest he ever caught and for the next 1 ½ hours we bailed fish up to 35”. When we got back to the truck I asked him NOT to say anything about that spot because it’s a place I knew I could catch some fish if other places were not producing. Well the next week I go down to the river and went right back over there and as I was pulling up I noticed 3 boats in that area and yep you guess it, it was the guy that I had out with the week before and 2 of his buddy’s with 3 guys in each boat. Did I learn a lesson you bet I did, did that guy ever go with me again NOPE. As I said before I will try and help anyone I can and give them as much information as possible but I learn my lesion the hard way and it will not happen again.

[Mikie]

Personally, I prefer the "old time" way - you put in your time, pay your dues and become proficient because of your experience. The internet hasn't done the overall quality of the fishery any good. If I should happen to feel the need to brag about my catch, I do it in person to select people who I know appreciate the info and won't bring in a armada of boats to clean out the school.

[Fish Nut]

Spot burning? In general I am a weekend warrior and a loner. A lot of friends I fished with grew up got married had kids sold there boats. I am always chasing the fish in general because I only fish one or two days a week. I have a few friends & Captains I talk to and in general have to filter what they say. With that said I would not give away anyone’s honey hole. However, I fish some general areas that I know get hammered such as Hackett’s, Pidicory point, muds LP and Brick House. Can a general area be burned? The in fisherman reports these areas every week as having fish on them? Now for specifics locations GPS coordinates pylon numbers and specific humps which are only big enough for a boat or two I definitely believe they can be burned. In General I help out people and give them a chance IF they are A7%&^ then no soup for them. Unfortunately, I think everyone here who has posted on this board has a very unique boat and I see most of you guys burning up and down the bay all the time. I look forward to fishing with you guys this year. I fish in the Chesapeake bay From Stoney Creek – HS buoy.

[paxfish]

10 or 12 years ago on CA and WWA, I'd post a spot or two. I paid the price a couple of times though and learned my lesson.

Pretty much, the info stays close. I know which of my buddies keep their mouths shut and which have a wider network.

And if I see a post about a spot I like to fish that concerns me, I send a bmail to the poster and they have edited it every time.

[paxfish]

Originally Posted by Fish Nut

Can a general area be burned?

Yeah - I think so depending on the audience. Years ago I got intel on TF that an area I'd never fished was holding Blues to 7 pounds, and rockfish to 12 pounds.

I broke out the chart, looked for structure in the general area, picked my tide and crushed 'em.

[trapshoot]

Originally Posted by Steve F

Vince,
Here’s my take on selfishness, 7 or 8 years ago I took a guy fishing because he wanted to learn the Patapsco River so I told him I would take him out with me and show him a few spots. Well we fished for about 3 hours and we never even put a fish over the rail so I told him that I have a spot that not many guys know about and I would like to keep it that way. So off we went and as soon as we pulled up I seen nothing but fish on the fish finder so I just knew we were going to catch something. His first drop he pulls in a 30” the biggest he ever caught and for the next 1 ½ hours we bailed fish up to 35”. When we got back to the truck I asked him NOT to say anything about that spot because it’s a place I knew I could catch some fish if other places were not producing. Well the next week I go down to the river and went right back over there and as I was pulling up I noticed 3 boats in that area and yep you guess it, it was the guy that I had out with the week before and 2 of his buddy’s with 3 guys in each boat. Did I learn a lesson you bet I did, did that guy ever go with me again NOPE. As I said before I will try and help anyone I can and give them as much information as possible but I learn my lesion the hard way and it will not happen again.

Steve;

Here is my response. Have you gone back to that place and been able to fish again? Have you caught fish there again?

I am sorry that individual violated your trust. Definately not a friend. Or one that you would reassociate with.

I will concede the fact of the trust issue. all my point is, What does it matter!!!! I have no problem if you do not want to share a location.

I just posted my view thats all.

Vince

[reeltor]

Here's my take on Spot Burning;

There are some comments I need to make regarding Spot Burning. Wait! Before you dismiss me as obstreperous, hear me out. The following theorem may therefore be established as an eternally valid truth: The most fork-tongued ragamuffins I've ever seen reduce us to acute penury. That said, we mustn't lose sight of who the real enemy is: Spot Burning and its tendentious, irritable deputies. In essence, when a mistake is made, the smart thing to do is to admit it and reverse course. That takes real courage. The way that Spot Burning stubbornly refuses to own up to its mistakes serves only to convince me that if we briefly prescind from the main point of this letter we can focus on how I myself like to say that at the heart of the problem is Spot Burning's obliviousness to history, its moral cowardice masked in bold rhetoric, and its overwhelmingly shallow political posturing. Spot Burning never directly acknowledges such truisms but instead tries to turn them around to make it sound like I'm saying that cannibalism, wife-swapping, and the murder of infants and the elderly are acceptable behavior. I guess that version better fits its style—or should I say, "agenda"?

No matter how close it's come to making me abandon all hope, it won't be satisfied until it finds a way to overthrow western civilization through the destruction of its four pillars—family, nation, religion, and democracy. Never before have I encountered more bloatedly self-important prose than that which Spot Burning produces. It has been proven time and time again that I act based on what I think is right, not who I think is right. That's why I try always to solve the problems of priggism, despotism, economic inequality, and lack of equal opportunity. It's also why I say that a central fault line runs through each of its monographs. Specifically, my cause is to build an inclusive, nondiscriminatory movement for social and political change. I call upon men and women from all walks of life to support my cause with their life-affirming eloquence and indomitable spirit of human decency and moral righteousness. Only then will the whole world realize that Spot Burning constantly insists that it understands the difference between civilization and savagery. But it contradicts itself when it says that it can succeed without trying.

Spot Burning must have some sort of problem with reading comprehension. That's the only explanation I can come up with as to why Spot Burning accuses me of admitting that it values our perspectives. What I actually said is that while Spot Burning's thralls have been gorging themselves on the intravenous feeding tube called denial, Spot Burning has been forcing me to expend all of my wit and energy in trivial pursuits. In fact, I have said that to Spot Burning on many occasions, and I will keep on saying it until it stops trying to batten on the credulity of the ignorant. In the strictest sense, Spot Burning makes it sound like everyone with a different set of beliefs from its is going to get a one-way ticket to Hell. The evidence against that concept is so overwhelming, even an eight-year-old child can recognize it. Even so, those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Of course, if Spot Burning had learned anything from history, it'd know that it's a pretty good liar most of the time. However, Spot Burning tells so many lies, it's bound to trip itself up someday. Summa summarum, Spot Burning's a social liability.


http://www.pakin.org/complaint/

[5th Tuition]

Paul; you left out Capt. George's puntuation. However, you certainly got your point across. Would you be available to debate the health care crisis.
5th (Marty)

[reeltor]

In all seriousness, if I find fish alone and someone asks I will tell what I know or even post a report on it. If someone puts me on the bite I keep it quiet. If I fish with someone else I keep it to myself. I want to get invited back If you know the patterns of the bay, keep a log, or use the TF search button it isn't hard to figure out where the fish will be.

I felt bad for Phill and JP when I posted a negative reply to the post. I was glad to see a report on those areas and was happy that JP caught a personal best fish. I have not met either but hold both in high regard. I was just shocked to see the detailed photos on an area that was so tight lipped. Yea, these spots are known in general but if I said I caught fish at BS and you tried to find it, I'm betting you would not. I still think the detailed photos should be deleted.

Peace/Out

[crabby and son]

Originally Posted by reeltor

Here's my take on Spot Burning;

There are some comments I need to make regarding Spot Burning. Wait! Before you dismiss me as obstreperous, hear me out. The following theorem may therefore be established as an eternally valid truth: The most fork-tongued ragamuffins I've ever seen reduce us to acute penury. That said, we mustn't lose sight of who the real enemy is: Spot Burning and its tendentious, irritable deputies. In essence, when a mistake is made, the smart thing to do is to admit it and reverse course. That takes real courage. The way that Spot Burning stubbornly refuses to own up to its mistakes serves only to convince me that if we briefly prescind from the main point of this letter we can focus on how I myself like to say that at the heart of the problem is Spot Burning's obliviousness to history, its moral cowardice masked in bold rhetoric, and its overwhelmingly shallow political posturing. Spot Burning never directly acknowledges such truisms but instead tries to turn them around to make it sound like I'm saying that cannibalism, wife-swapping, and the murder of infants and the elderly are acceptable behavior. I guess that version better fits its style—or should I say, "agenda"?

No matter how close it's come to making me abandon all hope, it won't be satisfied until it finds a way to overthrow western civilization through the destruction of its four pillars—family, nation, religion, and democracy. Never before have I encountered more bloatedly self-important prose than that which Spot Burning produces. It has been proven time and time again that I act based on what I think is right, not who I think is right. That's why I try always to solve the problems of priggism, despotism, economic inequality, and lack of equal opportunity. It's also why I say that a central fault line runs through each of its monographs. Specifically, my cause is to build an inclusive, nondiscriminatory movement for social and political change. I call upon men and women from all walks of life to support my cause with their life-affirming eloquence and indomitable spirit of human decency and moral righteousness. Only then will the whole world realize that Spot Burning constantly insists that it understands the difference between civilization and savagery. But it contradicts itself when it says that it can succeed without trying.

Spot Burning must have some sort of problem with reading comprehension. That's the only explanation I can come up with as to why Spot Burning accuses me of admitting that it values our perspectives. What I actually said is that while Spot Burning's thralls have been gorging themselves on the intravenous feeding tube called denial, Spot Burning has been forcing me to expend all of my wit and energy in trivial pursuits. In fact, I have said that to Spot Burning on many occasions, and I will keep on saying it until it stops trying to batten on the credulity of the ignorant. In the strictest sense, Spot Burning makes it sound like everyone with a different set of beliefs from its is going to get a one-way ticket to Hell. The evidence against that concept is so overwhelming, even an eight-year-old child can recognize it. Even so, those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Of course, if Spot Burning had learned anything from history, it'd know that it's a pretty good liar most of the time. However, Spot Burning tells so many lies, it's bound to trip itself up someday. Summa summarum, Spot Burning's a social liability.


http://www.pakin.org/complaint/

Paul, Got any of that " stuff" left over...........Gary