Fished with Walleye Pete

[jumbo1]

Skill....Yep...Amazing...

[oldfart]

I want to see a trolling exibition in the rips, prove how good you are. 24oz and 6bars with the outflow from a dead stop. My guess 6' before they hang

[5th Tuition]

Now that I'm a bonafide jigger (which reminds me I still have to pick up my new SteveF rod); I can understand keeping certain spots as quiet as possible. I have a lot of learning to do to find areas that hold fish where I can jig them. However, the "secret spot" referred to here is far from secret. So now you have to factor into the equation the fact that it is "best" when only a few boats are working the same area. Engine noise, and other variables mean the "spot" can shut down if worked too hard.
But let's face it, most of us have our personal boats "winterized" and covered. If we get out, espescially with a guide, with someone who knows the area and the etiquette needed to successfully fish the area without negatively affecting the other boats, I would think we could post without endangering the "spot".
If I go with Pete this summer and we are successful, I will only say something like, "went to some islands on the eastern shore and tore them up". If I go with a private boat, I won't even go that far. I'll only say we had a great day jigging with Don.
Whenever I go on someone elses boat. I usually don't post at all. I let the captain post first and I will add a thank you or something like that to the post. If the captain wants to "burn" his spot, that's ok, but I will never burn his spot for him.
Even trolling on my own boat, I usually just give an area (like Bloody Point, or Love Point).
But I would say the area we are talking about is "famous" for holding fish in the winter. It's hard to "burn" a spot like that.
5th (Marty)

[jumbo1]

Marty I agree with everything you said except for the last line...it's actually very easy to burn a well known spot..for guys like you and me and lots of regulars its just well known info..
I'm talking about the other people "lurkers' if you will..on TFish there are close to 60,000 people I think someone said..it only takes a few to see big fish pics and background to figure out where it is...getting up at 4am trailering 50 miles each way just so some "guy" who read a post and wants to try to see if he can catcha biggun...runs his motor..etc...ruins it for everyone...now I have been there days when there are 10 boats fishing...everyone knows the game and fishing is good..on the other side I have seen 4 or 5 boats and 1 idiot..fishing is done..
I'm all for everyone catching it's great..any pics that you see from the regular guys who don't post it on TFish won't have background..

I don't own the place it's just aggravating.. If everyone had the class that you have we wouldn't have a problem....'
I'm afraid that trollers and jiggers are worlds apart when it comes to burning spots...

[Skip]

Couple ways to look at giving away too much info.

Use TF as an example.

Someone writes a post with a channel marker as location.

The post gets 800 views. 100 think it would be good to fish there.
50 make plans to go.

25 have time to go but never get there.

5 at best really go.

Other thing is fish often move or just do not bite.

I can give you numbers for a wreck in upper bay. It is only good on outgoing current. Fish it any other time - skunk city.


Fish follow certain patterns ( most years ) based on season.
It is no secret where to look for them and when.

Fishing a powerplant discharge in winter is good in most cold areas in winter.

Hardly a secret.

[jumbo1]

OK Skip heres the scenario...you like to live line...only 1 piling is holding fish on the BB...you get there and there are 6 boats around your piling...knowing thats the only one that holds fish what do you do?
And you can't say I'm going to anchor up and eat some donuts..
On another note if spot burning doesn't matter how come you guys don't mention piling numbers when you anchor up? (Though I will say you give out more info than most)..your kind of an exception to the rule..

[jumbo1]

So here's what we will do to make it fair...this summer when you guys are live lining please stand in front of the piling that you caught your fish on with number in view...same thing as pics in front of the rips..It's no secret that the BB holds fish in the summer...the reason you guys don't do it is because your smart enough not to ruin your spot...this is the point I'm trying to make..

[Skip]

Jumbo - Many times my first choice to fish is taken.

I love the area near CP marker in spring but if boats are there - I go north / south a touch. You know too well , boat noise can move fish.

Same thing wreck fishing offshore , fishing bridge pilings , oyster humps - not uncommon to fall have to fall back on plan B , C or D.

Even 65 miles offshore - little humps - it can get crowded.

One reason I fish weekdays if I can.

I hesitate to put up GPS numbers - not to be selfish but in fear the fish will move and folks think I mislead them.

I have left a school biting at 8pm and back there next morning at 6 am - the fish are gone. Find them later 2 miles away. I just laughed but someone banking on my numbers would cuss me for days.

One exception is Hacketts can. I'm 99% confident Perch will be there the next day.

[jumbo1]

Skip, you're missing the point....in my "test" question...only 1 piling has fish in the whole area (like the rips)...you get there and all possible ways to fish it are exhausted...because you posted a pic of the number of the piling...what are you going to do... keep posting a pic of the piling?...encourage others to do the same?..I think not..

[Mikie]

Well, there aren't 60,000 active viewers on Toilet Flush. Fish don't only hang around one piling on the Bay Bridge. If these things bother you, you should STOP posting reports. Face facts, you're only bragging about how good you think you are. Last time I checked, it was still ALMOST a free country. Post if you want, the other guys will post if they want. If you don't like it, don't read about it. Just stop crying because some people don't behave the way you would like them to.