02-21-2011, 06:08 PM
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Couple ways to look at giving away too much info.
Use TF as an example.
Someone writes a post with a channel marker as location.
The post gets 800 views. 100 think it would be good to fish there.
50 make plans to go.
25 have time to go but never get there.
5 at best really go.
Other thing is fish often move or just do not bite.
I can give you numbers for a wreck in upper bay. It is only good on outgoing current. Fish it any other time - skunk city.
Fish follow certain patterns ( most years ) based on season.
It is no secret where to look for them and when.
Fishing a powerplant discharge in winter is good in most cold areas in winter.
Hardly a secret.
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02-21-2011, 06:15 PM
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OK Skip heres the scenario...you like to live line...only 1 piling is holding fish on the BB...you get there and there are 6 boats around your piling...knowing thats the only one that holds fish what do you do?
And you can't say I'm going to anchor up and eat some donuts..
On another note if spot burning doesn't matter how come you guys don't mention piling numbers when you anchor up? (Though I will say you give out more info than most)..your kind of an exception to the rule..
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02-21-2011, 06:18 PM
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So here's what we will do to make it fair...this summer when you guys are live lining please stand in front of the piling that you caught your fish on with number in view...same thing as pics in front of the rips..It's no secret that the BB holds fish in the summer...the reason you guys don't do it is because your smart enough not to ruin your spot...this is the point I'm trying to make..
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02-21-2011, 06:26 PM
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Jumbo - Many times my first choice to fish is taken.
I love the area near CP marker in spring but if boats are there - I go north / south a touch. You know too well , boat noise can move fish.
Same thing wreck fishing offshore , fishing bridge pilings , oyster humps - not uncommon to fall have to fall back on plan B , C or D.
Even 65 miles offshore - little humps - it can get crowded.
One reason I fish weekdays if I can.
I hesitate to put up GPS numbers - not to be selfish but in fear the fish will move and folks think I mislead them.
I have left a school biting at 8pm and back there next morning at 6 am - the fish are gone. Find them later 2 miles away. I just laughed but someone banking on my numbers would cuss me for days.
One exception is Hacketts can. I'm 99% confident Perch will be there the next day.
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02-21-2011, 06:31 PM
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Skip, you're missing the point....in my "test" question...only 1 piling has fish in the whole area (like the rips)...you get there and all possible ways to fish it are exhausted...because you posted a pic of the number of the piling...what are you going to do... keep posting a pic of the piling?...encourage others to do the same?..I think not..
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02-21-2011, 06:40 PM
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The problem isn't the spot being known or not. It's that some fellers put their time in while most of you yayhoos are sitting at home dreaming of potential VT weddings with fishing partners, telling stories about your daddy on Internet fishing lists, or grab a$$ing with life partners. Then you take a chartered trip and post details like you discovered the new world. Then those MEN who have been there while you were cuddled up in your 100000 thread count satin sheets show up hoping to catch fish and there's 9 boats at a time there's normally only 1 or 2. All because you are an attention whore who was lacking attention and some hugs from your Daddy as a kid. Some get it, some are starting to, and some never will. See ya at the gas docks ladies!!!
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02-21-2011, 07:20 PM
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I guess I'm just so new to this jigging stuff that I ought to just keep my mouth shut and ears open. I've learned from experience that it's hard to listen while trying to talk over the other person.
If I can speak for some of the "trolling" guys for a minute; let's just say we are thrilled to be as successful as we were during this time of the year, and are possibly over jubilent to share it with others.
If we are going to "step into your world"; the least we can do is "play by your rules".
I'm sure as I try to expand my knowledge of jigging, I will be guilty of even more indiscrestions. Please feel free to contact me by PM as I would like to be known as an asset and not a liability to the jigging community.
Let's hope we all learned something from the debate. I hope everyone has a spactacular year this season no matter how they catch them.
5th (Marty)
p.s. jigstix; I'm going to give you a pass on the namecalling (yahoo's vs MEN) and consider you were just very frustrated this evening. If you intended to call us out, then I'm sorry for your reaction. Teach; don't alienate.
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02-21-2011, 07:23 PM
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Marty...Agreed
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02-21-2011, 08:27 PM
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Wasn't talking about you Marty
There are yayhoos that did and do what I described. Did not see you do that. Those same people, continue to antagonize and bait some of the fishermen that fish this area but when we see them fishing this spring, and point out exactly where they were, I'm sure they will not be as understanding as they expect Jumbo and others to be. But please turn the sarcasm detector on. I don't truly believe they are all headed to VT to get married even though I said it.
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02-21-2011, 09:47 PM
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Well, there aren't 60,000 active viewers on Toilet Flush. Fish don't only hang around one piling on the Bay Bridge. If these things bother you, you should STOP posting reports. Face facts, you're only bragging about how good you think you are. Last time I checked, it was still ALMOST a free country. Post if you want, the other guys will post if they want. If you don't like it, don't read about it. Just stop crying because some people don't behave the way you would like them to.
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